Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on April 29, 2014, 01:45:46 AM

Smooth makes solid points, but as I already argued upthread, nobody is willing to actually navigate the illegal/evil marketplaces on the deep web to check for BCN's presence.

If BCN is in fact used for black trade (snuff films, illegal pornography, etc.), how much of that do you think would actually surface to the clear web? I'm guessing none.

Bytecoin is the result of careful production and has too much utility to simply be a premine scam. My personal opinion is that BCN is definitely used for something, but nobody will come out and say exactly what that is without taking great risk.

People, stop theorizing about what you're not willing to investigate.
Being a fraction of the "nobody" who investigated, I'm telling you that there's no super secret large group of people exchanging BCN. Maybe a small group of people, but what use does BCN have for a small group of people? They would be circlejerk tokens.

How much of BCN trade would surface on the clear web? A hell of a lot of it. Go hop on TOR yourself, the deep web is not a secret, and if it was, there would be no userbase. The only secret is the identities of deepweb users.
I can imagine it now, illegal website telling people to buy shit with a completely unheard of "currency" instead popular ol' Bitcoin. It wouldn't work out. How would you exchange your money for it? Send money from credit or bank to a potential law enforcement officer? Trade for bitcoin, then for BCN? (DEFEATS the purpose). Why would anyone use this GUI-less program that takes days to load? You can pretend deepweb users have all sorts of personality traits, like intelligence, but nah, they're stupid like the rest of us on Bitcoin Forums.

BCN being of great utility is completely separate from whether or not it had a big userbase mining it. Personally, if I created bytecoin, I would be mining it along with my whole dev team to ensure network stability and to perform tests.
I do agree that BCN wasnt made for the purpose of a "premine scam", but it doesn't have to be made for that to potentially be one.

Quote from: abit2slo on April 29, 2014, 05:32:13 AM

arrrrrr smooth

you are such a killjoy. we all here know your point of view and almost learned it by heart. just because you have repeated it 1000000 times everywhere. for god's sake, stop it! it so irritating.

nobody force you to mine and trade BCN. if you don't like the original coin so go and play with the copy that you have made for your own pleasure - BMR, BMO or whatever else it's called

please, leave all your theories for yourself 'cause nobody is interested any more

You know what's irritating? Delusional joy-joys