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I think what PMICT is saying though one is most assuredly malicious - keeping keys - while screwing up loads is not necessarily malicious and is more along the lines of negligence.

we do know he was traveling - he may not have access to anything that would allow him to verify claims and/or access to the funds.

Do I think he is in the right? hell no.

but I think of it along the lines of like microsoul was - you never know if you will get your funds. It was more of screwing up vs trying to steal with microsoul - I think the same is here for the 1hodlclub.

He def should have followed up and funded coins as soon as they arrived - no doubt about it. just simply holding funds because they never let you know it arrived - meh, that's bs.

But i also know that some coins were melted - and some people begged for not having their "funded" coins actually funded. so not every "funded" coin address should necessarily be funded. But this is where that transparency is lacking.

He owes a lot of people, isn’t communicating with them & has made sales on Twitter since this was brought to light. A con is a con 🤷🏻‍♂️

It's possible not loading some coins whose owners never followed up was a premeditated way to soft scam, and given his lack of communication for several months it is not a huge leap. If that is possible, it is also possible the private keys were kept.

What I am saying, and I think Yoda is as well, is that if Mr. Hodl soft scammed by not funding coins which should be funded there is a non zero chance they are also holding onto the private keys.

There's literally a non zero chance any coin maker does not keep copies of the keys they generated.

Fact is, if you keep the keys, then its a planned rug. There's no logical reason to keep copies.

I find it more concerning that Crypthodl has not posted on X since July 28th, and was allegedly in Kiev by his own account. I only say allegedly as there's really no way we verified it. Also, saw some posts where a guy in Kiev was kidnapped and killed because people found out he had 3 btc. They tortured him until he gave them access, stole the funds, and then murdered him. That wasn't MrCrypthodl as I reached out to him and got a reply on July 30th. But still, its not safe in Ukraine and not some place I would want to be.

looks like raghavsood tracker site will make it easy to see if funds begin to move. I have no reason to expect that they will, as I have no reason to suspect that he kept copies of the keys. Not going to lie tho, I check my btc tracker app regularly to verify.

I refuse to blame the victims, but I can 100% say that all my coins were funded. Trust but verify... isn't that what they say?!

It is a pretty messed up situation and there are plenty of red flags. It is a real shame because his pieces seemed well thought out and manufactured. They also weren’t cheap. Charging massive markups and then “soft” scamming the customers you already price gouged is pretty crazy behavior.