Quote from: Pmalek on Today at 12:25:41 PM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on Today at 07:27:49 AM

My viewpoint - I don't care.

Perhaps not because you weren't affected personally.

But take a look at the following flawed logic.
You advertise an online casino in your signature. Without checking how exactly that casino works, I would guess that it's like any other gambling site: it has custody of your coins, it can freeze them, you can lose them, the money can be hacked, and essentially there is trust involved.

I, on the other hand, operate a casino that is (by some miracle) trustless. I can never confiscate your money, you have control of it at all times, and I can only take the wagers you lose.

The casino you advertise gets raided and seized by the feds for whatever reason, and the feds confiscate everyone's money because it's all deposited wallets that the casino control. Using flawed logic and pure viciousness, I start to claim that people who wore a Shuffle signature are scammers who should be ashamed of themselves because they tricked unknowing players into depositing money into a casino that was a scam. You, Wind_FURY, are a scammer. When will you return the money you stole?

Welcome to Kruw's mind.

You misunderstood my viewpoint and you're going out of context from your original post. This is your post,

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If a scammer uses Kruw's coordinator and Wasabi to "clean" their stolen coins, that's ok and there is no problem there. Kruw and Wasabi aren't scammers for allowing that to happen. Everyone advertising Wasabi are heroes and privacy advocates.

If a scammer uses a mixer that later gets seized by the government, then the people paid to advertise said mixer are scammers and it's all their fault. They must also return all the coins the government seized.

You were talking about a CoinJoin coordinator, centralized mixers, and "Kruw's logic". The people from both sides of the debate have their viewpoints, but personally I don't care if a "criminal" or a "normal user" uses a Wasabi coordinator, a centralized mixer, or the Lightning Network to obtain more privacy. Bitcoin is a permissionless system. ANYONE can use it and its applications/services.