Quote from: trustmebro on Today at 10:04:57 AM

Quote from: holydarkness on September 26, 2024, 03:37:39 PM

Nonetheless, I have to agree that saying they're provably fair and yet didn't give any method to prove the fairness is a bit... worrying. I'll inquire this on their ANN thread, given this topic seems to be beneficial for players future reference.

They gave a method to verify it but it's not as documented well in a way that is truthful.
You can verify these bets, but once you go look you'll see that the client seed is provided to them at the start and not controllable by you and cannot be changed mid game. They're able to change future bets but I don't think they can change the result of the bet you're about to make. Only the one after it.

It doesn't use a nonce, instead every single roll they take a random number between 0 and 10000 that they generate and combine that with your client seed and their hash which I wasn't able to check but is combined with their initial roll. Then they take their initial roll and add onto it your generated number from their secret. It doesn't make sense and it's a convoluted way to solve a very easy problem. I just want the PF not to make it difficult for them but because I want to further investigate the pattern behind their random numbers and if it shows any bias towards opposite ends of my bet.

I've asked from the start for them to share all bet history with everyone. Include timestamps as that should hopefully make it clear there was no automation. But with their refusal to provide any real evidence for their claims I have to say that I can't know if it was manipulated or not with such a delay. I'll just have to investigate once they provide it

Client seed are not supposed to be changed mid game. They supposed to be set before the game started, i.e. before you press that spin or roll button. Thus, no one, not the casino nor the player can dictate or predict the outcome of each round, given both parties influence the result prior to the roll. What's exactly the purpose of a provable fairness if the client can change their seed mid-game?

And nonce, let me inquire to them.

Quote from: trustmebro on Today at 10:04:57 AM

Quote from: holydarkness on September 26, 2024, 03:37:39 PM

Let me try a different approach that I have in mind. Not sure if betflexi would cooperate with this idea, but it wont hurt trying. I'll need your consent to initiate this... shot-in-the-dark, regardless they'll agree to it or not: do you allow them to share your betting history to me, on for-my-eyes-only basis?

I've been asking for them to share the bet history since the start. They can share all of it to everyone. I can't speak to it's authenticity now though with the time between my initial request and the ample time they've had to do this.

Got it. Let me try to approach them with what I have in mind