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Quote from: TwitchySeal on September 29, 2024, 08:39:03 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on September 29, 2024, 07:31:21 AM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on September 29, 2024, 06:24:06 AM

Whenever you hear someone say "all politicians lie", you can bet that they are helping the politicians that are the biggest liars by implying they should be put in the same group as the most honest politicians. And most of the time it's Trump they are trying to defend.

There is no such thing as an honest politician these days to be frank. I want Harris to win over Trump, but I do not believe for a second that she is an honest politician at all. She is simply a better choice when compared to Biden and Trump.

However, all of these options suck. Even Obama seems like a proper option when compared to these three in my opinion.

You're implying that they are all equally dishonest.

This is probably the number one argument used to by people that try to rationalize supporting Trump to themselves.

Trump lies about anything and everything, pretty much every single time he speaks.

Election fraud, immigrants eating cats and dogs, the size of his inauguration crowd, what 3 star generals said to him while he was president, what the judge said in his criminal trial, laws he claims he signed but didnt, the Trump moscow project, his taxes, which states are in the path of a hurricane, the porn star he had an affair with, all the classified dox the FBI found in his beach club when he wasn't president, how tall he is...when the guy tells the truth it's just a coincidence.

So when you say "all politicians are liars", you're saying what so many of Trump supporters say everyday, like it doesn't matter how many times Trump lies, or what kinds of things he's lying about, as long as every other politician has told 1 or more lies, then that means they are all liars and that cancels out all of Trumps lies.

That's the nature of politics, not just in the United States, politics in every other country is like that. Lying, cheating, cruelty...they have almost become political culture all over the world. You can try asking non-Americans, is there anyone who would praise and be proud of their country's politicians? I believe they all have the same answer.

As for voting and supporting any candidate, it means that we are also looking for benefits for ourselves, we are looking to exchange benefits with them. Would you vote for a candidate whose policies you believe would harm you and your business? We all and politicians are the same, all only care about our own interests, no one is good here.

Yes. If the candidate you support lies every single time he speaks, has been a known scammer for decades, etc...etc.... then "all politicians are liars" (which really means, "don't count all that lying/cheating/scamming/crime against Trump, every other politician has done or said at least one thing misleading or dishonest, so just consider all politicians, including Trump, equally dishonest")...I guess that's the nature of politics.

But you're basically becoming as dishonest as the politician by repeating the irrational dishonest argument.