Quote from: suchmoon on October 07, 2024, 10:37:18 PM

Quote from: Poker Player on October 07, 2024, 04:43:34 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on October 06, 2024, 12:36:52 PM

Not according to the Supreme Court.

False.

Can you elaborate? Trump has repeatedly claimed that he would conduct mass deportations, with little to no regard to legal status. And he would have near absolute immunity from prosecution even if he breaks the law. Impeachment is basically impossible as we've already seen. What is there to stop him?

I just thought you were referring to some ruling regarding the past elections. What I'm saying is that the Supreme Court sure hasn't ruled anything on future possible events.

Quote from: suchmoon on October 07, 2024, 10:37:18 PM

What ideology?

We're literally betting on Trump and Kamala, not Biden. Biden dropped out mainly because he was not fit to run again. Trump is not fit in most ways Biden was, and he's still running.

To me it is clear that Biden has had cognitive problems for at least a couple of years that are not seen in Trump and that is what forced him to withdraw from the electoral race.It is a question of seeing it or not seeing it.

Quote from: paxmao on October 07, 2024, 11:04:33 PM

Nope, it is not false you wrote:

Quote from: Poker Player on October 06, 2024, 08:09:07 AM

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Surely all those who cross illegally are engineers who are going to contribute their talent and effort to the country, and they are not going to drive wages down or push real estate prices up, nor are there any drug dealers, pimps, women prostituted against their will or any kind of criminals among them. Ironies aside[...]
[...]

It seems to me that I am not going to discuss much with you, eh? Because with suchmoon I argue but at least we have some common grounds to discuss but for you to say that this is false, it is not that you live in wonderland, it is that you do not understand anything or you live in the ideal world of Marx's Das Kapital, who by the way was another posh guy from a rich family who never worked in his life.

To begin with I don't know how an irony is going to be false, but the liberal nonsense that all immigration is wonderful, no matter how many millions come and defending that they are all wonderful people is to live totally alienated, it is easily dismantled if there are only a few who are not like that, who are criminals, that's what my irony was about.

You as a good alienated liberal take it as if I am saying the nonsense that most immigrants are criminals, which I have not said, I have said that what is false is the opposite thesis, that they are all wonderful. If you know anything about logic you know that what Hispo said for example already falsifies it.

And when you go on to talk about xenophobia, which is the typical liberal asshole argument (if you say something against immigration= xenophobe, in the same simplistic way as I could say: if you are in favor of massive and uncontrolled immigration= moron). Then you talk about Putin and Hitler, but what does Putin have to do here? I am not going to even respond to you. If you keep doing that, then if I want to answer you I will do it too, distort what you say and refute you.

The only thing I see you make a reasoned analysis on is the difference in immigration between Europe and USA, in that in Europe there is much more public spending and from the first moment but give Kamala a presidency and you will see.

Earlier I posted a link on the subject:

Quote from: Poker Player on October 02, 2024, 02:04:17 PM

California Dems want to help undocumented immigrants buy homes – during presidential race

Isn't that public spending?

And as for the wonderful immigration in Europe, I could give you hundreds of links of how wonderful the neighborhoods are as a result of mass immigration but you are one of those who does not suffer from it and you sure are very feminist and at the same time do not see a contradiction between that and filling the cities with Burkas.