Quote from: Warkop on October 13, 2024, 03:13:09 AM

But unfortunately what you said is a useless thing to say, why is that because all addicts do not care about the nonsense they prefer to waste their money on gambling, because it is one of the things they have to do and the rituals they have to do no matter that they are people who do not have much wealth, at least they can play calmly and not think about their daily lives they can even forget their wives and children.

Gambling is just a mirage can be dreamed of but difficult to express and a mere dream and a big dream in the mind of an addict, there must be someone who can change the mindset of people like that if they really want to do good things otherwise he will always do that with his daily life.

For addicted to gambling, that will be useless because they can not think what is right for them. But we are not addicted to gambling so we can think clearly and know what we must do. We can not spend our money to playing gambling just hope we can win more money. Not like that because gambling can even make you lose all of the money you have without left some for you. It is about how we can responsibilities to our money and how we can treat gambling for an entertainment so we don't have to feels what other people get from gambling.

Gambling is just for fun so we should treat it like that and not more. Those poor gamblers must change their mindset and search for the other ways to make money.

Quote from: Reatim on October 13, 2024, 05:43:37 AM

Gambling can be indeed a short cut out of poverty but it is not guaranteed and the risks are way too high for anyone to actually consider gambling just to get out of poverty. Some people dream of winning the lottery and getting rich but the chances are too low and if you only depend on gambling to make money then that is where it can get problematic. But if you only gamble once in a while when you have extra money then you won’t end up with too much losses and frustration.

The high risk is not worth for those who doesn't have much money because they will have a big risk to lose the money. Even if you have much money, that doesn't mean you can make money from gambling moreover poor people. They can buy lottery and hope someday they can win huge money but they must prevent from using too big money to buy the lottery. They must buy food for them and their family and not make lottery as their main things for their life. If they can have a job that gives them money, that will be better because they don't have to worry how to buy food and they can use some money to keep buying the lottery. It is better to playing gambling occasionally and use the money you can afford to lose.

Quote from: zuzie on October 13, 2024, 09:20:10 AM

Yes, at least if gambling is a tool for us to find fun activities and will make our hearts happy, of course it is allowed, but there also needs to be restrictions in terms of controlling gambling so as not to be excessive in running it.

It is true what you said, people who fall into poverty are caused by being too excessive in gambling because they draw the wrong conclusion or hope too high for the luck of victory in it so that they play a lot without proper control so that they play as they please without any proper betting limits. And of course the result is that they will lose a lot of money that is bet compared to their luck.

We must know how to treat gambling properly so we don't have to meet a problem. Unfortunately, only a few people who can do that while others still use and rely on gambling to make money. That is a wrong mindset so they must realize and needs to change it.

Many people falls into poverty because of gambling but that will not make other people learn from that lesson instead follow to the same path. Those people lose their money without have a chance to win in gambling. We can playing gambling but we must control ourselves and not use too big money because the high risk of losing the money will be there.

Quote from: danherbias07 on October 13, 2024, 12:46:46 PM

"No guarantee." You are correct with that.
It's the very reason why a less fortunate person should not even start gambling. It's not a place where you can make money out of hard work, it's a place where we also risk our own money to make more or lose more.
Considering the state of living is an important factor before a person will gamble. Thinking twice about the risk that is glued to gambling and then analyzing if it's even right to do it or just save the money for something else. Investment or just a simple savings. If a person doesn't even have spare money to gamble, don't even think about doing it. It can become a financial chaos.

Yes, the "No guarantee" is something that those people must know so they will not try too hard to playing gambling. They must know that when they lose for some rounds, that means they don't have luck and needs to gets away from gambling immediately. Playing gambling is not a job but you use and risks your money to make money which that is not recommended to do.
Those people must considering their state of living if they want to survive because if they can use their money for their life, that will be better so they don't have to wastes their money in gambling. They don't have to force themselves to gambling if they don't have much money because the chance to makes money from gambling will not too big.