Quote from: Poker Player on October 14, 2024, 02:39:36 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 14, 2024, 12:25:39 AM

Ok, so Karl Marx is not a valid source for defining the concept of communism. My mistake. I assume Engels is also out.

So when was your definition of communism born? And who is behind it?

Joseph McCarthy?

From what happened in the real world, smarty pants, from what happened in the countries that implemented the system.

If Marx said that communism was going to be wonderful and in all the countries where it has been implemented there has been nothing but famine, political repression, censorship and millions of dead, I base myself on what is happening in the world and not on what a book said.

Let me get this straight. You think that for something to be considered communist, it only need to be labeled as such by politicians you agree with or media you consume today and the views of people who started the communist movement 150+ years ago, and inspired communist governments and people for the next 100 years are irrelevant. Is that right?

I think that's pretty dumb. "Ignorant" doesn't magically become "Educated" just because enough people are ignorant of the same thing. Just because everyone calls the Native Americans "Indians" doesn't mean they are from India.

Quote from: Poker Player on October 14, 2024, 02:39:36 PM

And who told you that under communism

Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 09, 2024, 02:18:14 AM

In a communist society, people don't own property.

Was it at a meeting of leftists who think they are the saviors of the world or what?

I read the communist manifesto. But that was written by Karl Marx, someone you think is not relevant to our discussion on the definition of communism. (lol)

And, to be more specific, communists don't think people should own private property, like land, factories, shops, etc. Personal property like clothes and stuff is different and ok.