Quote from: paxmao on October 17, 2024, 11:30:37 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 17, 2024, 04:39:14 PM

Quote from: Poker Player on October 17, 2024, 04:12:35 PM

Well, first of all let's see if anyone is able to explain to me why Kamala went to make a fool of herself on Fox yesterday. Then I have to hear some leftists to go on elitist, saying that those who vote right wing are dumb. She made an appalling fool of herself and seemed to be speaking to dumb potential voters. Hey paxmao, book an appointment with Kamala and show her your stats on immigration, who seems not to have heard.

Quote from: suchmoon on October 14, 2024, 03:49:05 PM

Let me see if I can parse out where this disconnect is happening. You seem to be taking the not uncommon but vague interpretation of "communim" meaning any society that has communism at its ideology, its goal, but hasn't achieved that goal.

Of course the goal has not been achieved because no matter how much you take the communist ideology as a Franciscan monk takes the bible, that shitty ideology has only led to hunger, repression and mass deaths in the real world.

Trump called Kamala a communist because he thought it sounded good.

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This is the direct and simple explanation. Thank you for keeping it simple, it may even be useful for the Trump one-liners fish memory people out there.

The accusation of "Communism" has been used all over the political arena, usually followed by comparisons with Venezuela - the go to country to scare people into voting something they do not really believe is really good. Plenty of manipulation there.

If you want a fun rabbit hole, look up the Malmedy Massacre during WW2. Then all the right wing conspiracy theories that surrounded the post war trial that the Nazis who did the massacre were actually the victims (blamed the jews obv). Joseph McCarthy starts his political career defending the Nazis, blaming the jews, and calling anyone who questioned him a communist. He likes being famous so he makes a carreer out of calling people communists. His chief council and personal lawyer was Roy Cohen up until McCarthy drank himself to death in 1957 (more conspiracy theories followed). 15 years later Trump hires Roy Cohen....

Roy Cohn: From ‘Red Scare’ Prosecutor to Donald Trump’s Mentor