Quote from: Poker Player on Today at 03:39:33 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on October 19, 2024, 07:42:39 PM

How is it a fallacy to point out severe inconsistencies in your argument?

Inconsistencies, you say?

Quote from: suchmoon on October 19, 2024, 07:42:39 PM

As far as I can understand the quote you've based this thread on, she wants to make government welfare to go to those who need it most...

Kamala does not say that. That's what I call inconsistency, changing every time the argument for what suits you and then refuting it, that's rather strawman inconsistency. I think I've experienced the welfare state in my flesh much more than you have and there's no way in hell it's about everyone having the same results. European social democracies functioned very well for many years with a respect for freedom of enterprise and a certain state redistribution, which has nothing to do with everyone having equal results.

Quote from: suchmoon on October 19, 2024, 07:42:39 PM

which I think is how it's supposed to work anyway, whether you like it or not.

and that has nothing to do with Kamala's communism whether you like it or not.

Then you must have linked to the wrong video. The video you linked to has Kamala talking about some people needing more help than others (which is literally how most forms of government welfare are designed - typically they don't hand out food stamps, unemployment benefits, etc to everyone but to those who meet certain "need" criteria). She mentions some $1400 payment for something, not sure what, and also $3000 child tax credit, hardly a communist policy. Talks about support for small businesses.

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Quote from: suchmoon on October 19, 2024, 07:42:39 PM

I didn't hear her say that businesses need to be nationalized, opponents need to be banished to Alaska (which I already tried to allude to in my response to BADecker but he seems to like it actually LOL), or any other signs of "communism", including the stuff that you ascribed to communism. So it sounds like a lot of conjecture on one phrase.

Yeah right, suchmoon now Kamala is going to come and openly say that she is a communist. Sounds like quite a bit of wishful thinking conjecture to me.

Since I don't have a "wish" either way, I don't see how it's my wishful thinking.

Quote from: Poker Player on Today at 03:39:33 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on October 19, 2024, 07:42:39 PM

Whereas the other candidate is point blank saying that he would deport millions of people, jail opponents, let police do whatever they want, use the military in illegal ways - I can't help but think that you call that "free world" and want to make up a scare about "communism" because of your own political bias.

Deporting millions of people that Kamala has been quick to let in is fucking cool. The jailing opponents thing I understand is for committing crimes following legal procedures (many Democrats also want to put Trump in jail) and if you want me to answer what I bolded provide some links because it doesn't ring a bell and I imagine you are distorting something he said.

Deporting millions of people by invoking the 1798 alien act is not cool at all. Nor is jailing of opponents for the reasons Trump said he would do it.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/19/nx-s1-5156027/alien-enemies-act-1798-trump-immigration
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/presidential/3196154/trump-affirms-that-schiff-and-pelosi-are-enemy-from-within/
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4906904-trump-endorses-police-rough-hour/
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/13/trump-military-election-day-00183565 (I'm surprised this one doesn't ring a bell since you posted in another thread about it)

And this is just the top of the proverbial iceberg.