Quote from: mrust_mobile on Today at 09:52:49 AM

Pushups are lame anyway. They are for the weak. Real men do pull-ups. Do 100 pull-ups and see how bitcoin will react. I guarantee it, it will rocket to the moon and even make Elon jelly.

You are making either the ONLY one true scottsman fallacy or the fallacy of elitism, which I doubt too many of us are engaging int pushups in order to be elite, even if we might be striving to get stronger.. and largely pushups should be something that anyone can do, even if some folks may need to modify them and build up to some kind of a quantity of pushups that demonstrate their strength and/or their improving strength.

Surely as any of us have become older, certain kinds of exercises become more and more difficult to carry out, so it seems quite impractical to proclaim that pullups to be a more genuine and/or appropriate exercise, including that there may well be a lot of guys who cannot do pull ups and/or have never been able to do pullups, and to expect to get any benefit from something that is not even possible to do or is really difficult to do in even small quantities comes off as quite impractical..and even as a way to frustrate the whole idea of pushups having way more of an everyman kind of an effect (even if they might be a bit guy-oriented, since women likely would not on their own choose pushups as their chosen exercise - to the extent that women even want to exercise and/or are socialized to exercise).

There are a lot of practical aspects of pushups, even if they might not be a total body exercise, they get quite a few parts and they can be modified in either the direction of easier or more difficult.

Another thing about pushups is that it is the exercise that had somewhat gone viral in regards to linking it with a desire for the BTC price to get to $100k and potentially to be more healthy (and/or strong) once or if the BTC price reaches such targeted price point... so yeah, if the target is 100 pushups a day until BTC gets to $100k, there are quite a few guys who may not even be able to start out at such quantity of pushups per day, and they have to work up to it... Symbolic? I am not sure, because anyone who actually starts to include a daily pushup practice soon will come to realize that pushups do not happen without purpose and thought. that also might end up reinforcing convictions about bitcoin and/or matters related to bitcoin price, since we are talking about bitcoin, not shitcoins when we are focusing on physically manifesting pushups every single day.. perhaps 100 pushups or perhaps building up to 100 and perhaps even figuring out some quantity that works for them. There were quite a few guys who conceded such difficulties in doing 100 pushups every single day, so then they might have compromised and said that they would do some 1/1000ths of the BTC price, so perhaps today doing 66, 67 or 68 pushups, yet many of those guys have not been lasting and perhaps based on thoughts that the BTC price would go to $100k faster so that they could be relieved of their daily pushups' obligation.

A few of us who mostly committed to doing pushups every single day, up until now, might have had committed to doing pushups every single day if were to really believe that it was to to take more than 8.5 months and the BTC price has still not reached $100k.. Your saying pullups are better based on a presumption that pullups are the real true Scottsman (and that pushups are too easy) is a bunch of crap baloney bullshit that presumes, lacks evidence (logic and/or facts) that doing pushups ever single day is actually an easy thing to accomplish.

By the way, I frequently suggest that guys who might either be new to pushups or who have not done pushups for a while should be trying to start with their pushups in the range of 8-12 pushups per set and around 3 sets per day and then to see how they are going to do from there in terms of how they feel when doing them and how they feel about their strength, and perhaps even whether it might make them feel different about the bitcoin price. I had not really thought too much about whether we might be speculating about when the bitcoin price might reach $100k or what kinds of things we might do on the way to $100k to reinforce our commitment about bitcoin (besides buying more bitcoin or otherwise just watching charts that may more may not be getting to $100k in a fast enough way).

Guys who are ONLY capable of doing 8-12 pushups in a set may well not be able to do 1-2 pull ups either.. it is difficult to imagine. There were some guys coming to the pushup thread and proclaiming to ONLY be able to do some small quantity of pushups, such as less than 10 pushups in a day, and I surely was asserting that guys who could not do at least 10 pushups in a day should not be allowed to have their results in the pushup table and they likely also should not even be treated seriously in terms of their contribution to the thread unless they had some kind of an explanation why they might be ONLY able to less than 10 pushups in a thread, and surely even in Phillipma1957 initial participations in the pushup thread, he was proclaiming to do planks as pushup substitutes, and sure there was some tolerance of that kind of a substitute based on his explanation why he could not do pushups, but still.. seems to be a somewhat limited case. .and gosh just thinking about pullups causes me pain and stress regarding how to build up to having something like that as something that is available to many folks rather than being ONLY a few guys capable of doing some of them, and what the fuck we want to just watch some elitist guys showing us their physical prowess without doing something that many of us could potentially and even likely (as long as we are still kicking and even not a bot) carry out ourselves.

Many of us likely realize that it can be difficult to do pull ups, even in terms of having equipment, which at minimum is some kind of a bar or grip to be able to grab onto do attempt them.. .. and I would think that sometimes building up to being able to do more pullups might be assisted by various kinds of equipment that might help to support the weight and perhaps even targeting 8-12 pullups with assistance from the equipment and then trying to work up to a fitness status of being able to do pullups without assistance, which also seems to be a bit of an elitist kind of exercise.. and no fucking way are normie bitcoiners who are in the pushup challenge proclaiming to be elitist or even very athletic beyond the pushups that also focus and/or related to the BTC price. We can almost do pushups anywhere if we are not overly shy about it, even though I personally prefer to not have an audience.

Pushups have a bit of a potential for broad appeal, and many of us are proclaiming that our chosen exercise is one that anyone can do, anywhere and even have some connectedness to why we are doing the pushups related to the bitcoin price. .. and yeah concededly pushups as a chosen exercise to seem to be a bit male-focused - even though they could be modified to be more female acceptable, even though I would consider that many females would likely not even choose pushups as their chosen exercise since many females are not as much into building strength in their upper body as men tend to be more naturally inclined to want to build their strength in such a way (and even have their physic to be seeable through the outline of their upper body)..

It seems less common for a women to want to do pushups and even more rare for a woman to want to include pullups as a chosen "daily" exercise.. which brings us back to the pullups as elitist point, not only for men, but even more for women, which I doubt that trying to be some kind of an elitist athlete is even close to the reason why many of us are participating in the pushups til $100k thread.. Yeah sure there might be some guys who have specialized goals, yet it seems that many of us are largely going through a kind of a process of doing pushups and connecting our daily activities to hopeful UPpity moves in the BTC price, which $100k seems a somewhat "in reach" target.

Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 11:59:07 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 07:16:52 AM

Have you read the whole pushup thread or you are speculation that the thread has nothing to do with BTC prices, even though the title of the thread has a target price of $100k contained within it?

I read the last few pages. There is a couple of passing mentions of Bitcoin and its price. So at the very least the thread itself is extremely poorly moderated if it was supposed about Bitcoin but it no longer is. But more likely the thread is actually about pushups, so it shouldn't be in Speculation.

I am glad that you are such a professional analyst and figured out that the mere fact that we have the bitcoin price in the thread does not motivate the thread. I hardly give too many shits if the thread moves, yet when I hear some of you guys proclaim that the thread is ONLY about pushups, then you seem to be purposefully ignoring the whole premise of the thread.. whether the BTC price is mentioned or not, it is the reason why many of us are doing (or claiming to do) pushups on a daily basis.. .. we don't talk about shitcoins in that thread. Many guys question if they will continue to do pushups once the BTC price reaches $100k (if it does). Just like DCA'ers frequently lose their interest in DCAing into bitcoin based on various movements of the BTC price, there are similar kinds of dynamics in the pushups thread... whether we say the word bitcoin or we talk about when or how BTC is getting to $100k or some other bitcoin related matter is getting to do the pushups so that we can potentially be in better shape to bang hookers, to drive our lambos and to tolerate blow without dying from it based on our being in better shape when (or if) BTC prices reach $100k..

Sure, you can proclaim the speculation is loose, and I hardly give too many shits if the thread goes to off-topic even though it logically makes less and less sense to proclaim the thread is off topic, especially the more and more several of you haters are trying to proclaim that the thread is not related to bitcoin, you are starting to sound like you are unable to appreciate the relationship of the thread to bitcoin because you are so busy worried about if some members might be receiving merits to easily or that they might get credit for their signatures in such a thread.. or maybe I am having more and more difficulties understanding why some of you give too many shits about the thread and the potential that it is ONLY loosely linked to BTC price speculations, even though the price is specifically in the title of the thread.. but no OgNasty created the thread so it must be bad... which it also seems to have taken more than 8 months for some of you to get excited about the thread since the thread is quite popular.. yet I really doubt that OgNasty had a lot to do with the thread becoming popular beyond his regularly participating in it.. and sometimes having a bit of his annoying self come out, yet in the end, the thread still does not seem to be about OgNasty as much as it is about connecting the doing of daily pushups to the BTC price movement.. hopefully upwardly so that many of us might want to reconsider if we want to continue to doing pushups or in some other way reconsider the matter.

Maybe if you read through the thread, you will witness so many guys who proclaim that they are ONLY doing the pushups either because of the thread or because of their goal for the BTC price to reach $100k, and many of us, including yours truly and several others in the thread, were either not doing pushups or maybe we were doing other activities prior to the thread, and likely we would not even be fucking around with doing pushups except that such pushup thread is embedded into an aspect of bitcoin culture that we would like to be a part of. .which includes that pushups related to the BTC price moving up to $100k is not ONLY on this particular forum, yet it is in other places in bitcoinlandia.. including that there could even be new forum members coming to the forum or even returning forum members who might end up seeing how extensive our pushup thread related to the BTC price has been developing, and many of those members may well become inspired to engage in pushups or otherwise engage in bitcoin or to keep their bitcoin resolve based on the thread... and yeah, there is hardly any members mentioning shitcoin and/or trading of bitcoin in the thread.. this thread seems to be a bit angled towards investing into bitcoin, investing into yourself and yeah sure perhaps some of us will give up on pushups and/or give up on bitcoin (like trade it) once the BTC price reaches $100k (if it does?), so yeah, we are not mentioning the BTC price every post or what we are going to do in relation to our BTC or our pushups once the BTC price reaches $100k (if the BTC price reaches such level), yet the relationship of the activity to BTC, to the price to the time it will take to reach $100k is right there..even if time is a bit of an unknown there is a pretty damned decent sized inference that can be made in regards to pushups being difficult that includes a desire and hope that the BTC price reaches $100k sooner rather than later. .and surely many of the guys participating in the thread would likely admit that they did not believe it would take so long for BTC prices to NOT reach $100k.

Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 11:59:07 AM

If the shoe was on the other foot I bet most of the apologists here would be arguing against the thread. In fact I can recognize quite a few usernames having been vocal against off topic or spammy threads on bitcoin boards.

Which part is spammy? The pushup script is run daily, guys submit their pushup reports fairly regularly, could be daily, and so you are saying if they don't mention the bitcoin price in each of their posts then they are clogging the bitcoin related channels? and there is not enough of a connection to BTC and/or to BTC price?

Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 11:59:07 AM

Using the thread title or some subliminal message sounds quite bad as an excuse even on this shithole of a spamforum.

You are pretty negative. Maybe you should do some pushups, cheer yourself up, potentially contribute towards your thinking about bitcoin reaching $100k instead of dumb ideas about whether some members might be getting more merits than they deserve and considerations like that?

Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 11:59:07 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 07:16:52 AM

It is kind of funny (or ironic) that Don Pedro's thread seems to speculate about the pushup thread not affecting prices, which seems to give greater credence towards the pushup thread being a BTC price speculation thread.

If I say that the flat earth thread is affecting Bitcoin price, that doesn't make the flat earth thread a "price speculation" thread.

I suppose that you could try to make some kind of a connection to your beliefs about the earth and/or other conspiracies and attempt to relate that to bitcoin price. The flat earth thread did not make any such attempt to connect flat earth to bitcoin price, or not that I recall, so your comparison seems out of place.

I have not looked at Don Pedro's new thread, but there could be some connection to speculation (even though it is quite dumb on the surface) to be suggesting that the pushup thread is suppressing BTC prices. Don Pedro's thread seems problematic because it seems to be a trolling thread as compared with the pushup thread did come out directly to suggest some value in doing pushups on a daily basis until the BTC prices reach $100k, and so even if many of us would not be proclaiming that doing pushups would move the BTC price in either direction, there is still an implied message that members could get some value and benefit in the performance of pushups on a daily basis during the time it takes BTC prices to reach $100k.. and surely a bit of an implication that prices going up to $100k and beyond was around the corner, and potentially our lives would be improved by doing daily pushups in the process of waiting for the BTC price to go up as contrasted to if we were to not do daily pushups.

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Quote from: joker_josue on October 20, 2024, 12:24:49 PM

People believe in many superstitions. Many football players enter the field with their right foot, as they believe that this will make them successful in the game. Others say she has a pair of lucky panties, and when they wear them everything goes well. Some I believe you have to do a certain kind of thing before something, to be successful. Anyway, the list is huge.

That's different: doing something because it influences your own performance is a placebo, and those are proven to work. Doing something to make something else happen isn't going to work.

In both cases it is either superstition or placebo.

Many football fans wear a certain piece of clothing because they believe that when they wear that piece of clothing, the team wins. And when there isn't one, the team loses. She came to this conclusion through a series of random events, which she believes are related.

Of course, having a placebo that helps stimulate your brain to do something for you is a positive thing.

Someone can create this kind of placebo, by saying "every day I have to buy $100 worth of BTC, otherwise I have to do 100 push-ups of the difference." Does it make sense to me? Maybe not. But to the person who came up with this idea, maybe it does, I don't know.

There could be some reinforcement of resolve to continue to hold bitcoin that is reinforced by doing the pushups every day.. so if there comes more resolve (and a reminder) to continue to hold the BTC and to toughen up about the BTC price, then perhaps more guys holding, becoming stronger and building their lettuce hands into stronger bodily features is going to contribute towards the BTC price going up since there is reinforcement every single day.. but yeah in the whole scheme of things is there any affect that actually causes the BTC price to reach $100k faster or does it just make some of us feel better in the process of getting to $100k.

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Quote from: mrust_mobile on Today at 09:52:49 AM

Pushups are lame anyway. They are for the weak. Real men do pull-ups.

You know nothing if you say pushup exercise are for the weak or you think push-up is very easy to do? May be thats is your thought, for it will be very difficult for a week person to do push-ups and do it properly if you think push-up is easy try and do 100 push-up in day let me see if you can continue the next day and you should also know that push-up exercise is not only the exercise that is been done in that thread for you can also add other exercises if chooses and stop referring push-up exercise as a LAME exercise that's is supposed to be done by those that are weak.

My level of physical soreness has slowly come down through my last 260 days of doing daily pushups, and for sure the first few months I was getting pains in all kinds of body parts that did not exactly seem to be directly related to pushups, and several of those pains either went away or became easier to deal with and/or of course, physical strength improved too... which also can be related to bitcoin, bitcoin price and even relating being able to do tough things to being able to hold bitcoin until $100k and perhaps even being able to continue to buy bitcoin until $100k rather than not doing anything in the process of waiting and/or hoping for BTC prices to go to $100k.