Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 01:01:36 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 22, 2024, 10:47:23 PM

You said that you were not worried about merits, yet now you seem that you are concerned about some members undeservedly getting paid for signatures.

I don't particularly care either way, just stating it for the sake of accuracy. If I just said "nothing would change [if the thread was on the off topic board]" - it would be somewhat inaccurate, because at least some campaigns don't pay for posts on that board.

Fair enough.

Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 01:01:36 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 22, 2024, 10:47:23 PM

You are giving me homework. At this moment, I have enough things on my plate. Perhaps you might have some highlights that you would like me to read or a link? How much homework would you like me to perform in order to better "inform myself" about what is going around here in relation to my assertions of your "negative Nancy-ism."
[...]I have read quite a few forum threads through the years. Why can't we just stick with my already achieved work product rather than giving me more assignments? Do you have any particular thread(s) that you would like to point out to me? It seems that I already got the general tenor of this place after nearly 11 years being around here.. (similar to you).

It's fine if you don't want to do it but then you don't have solid basis to say that I'm overly negative about the forum.

I am having some difficulties understanding or appreciating why I should need to look into the matter of my assessment of your statements beyond this thread and your posts in this thread. Sure, I already have had a decent quantity of interactions with you beyond this thread in the past 10-ish years, yet it seems to me that I was not attempting to characterize you as a negative Nancy and/or overly critical except in regards to your various posts and your seeming staunch position that you have represented in this thread regarding the pushup thread, and perhaps I had been characterizing you as maniacal because you seem to be taking such a strong stance on a topic that should not matter so much to you in regards to a thread that has already been within the bitcoin speculation section for more than 8 months.. including that you have been insinuating the thread to be spamfest too, without even really reading the thread, which you admitted to both not reading it and then ONLY doing a bit of a cursory review of a few of the more recent posts in order to come to an additional conclusion that the thread is not sufficiently related to BTC price speculation rather than being nearly exclusively about pushups and only impliedly abusive of calling itself a BTC speculation thread.. with purported negative affects on the forum and creating bad incentives for some members who are supposedly abusing the forum.

Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 01:01:36 AM

It's not about one or few good or bad threads, it's about the signal to noise ratio and just the general vibe of moderators not giving much of a shit.

Without having to comply with your assignment that I read some of your referenced threads, I already recognize and appreciate that there are a lot of threads and a lot of posters who seem to be communicating in gobbledy-gook, so there are quite a few times that I am pondering what the hell some of the posts/members are trying to say within their posts, and are there just issues with poor English or perhaps there are issues in regards to some members hardly having anything of value to contribute within their posts.. So, it is not like I have not already come across a lot of those kinds of posts and threads, and sometimes I have worn myself out by attempting to read through some of those kinds of threads in an attempt to identify if there might be some substantively valuable and/or interesting posts contained therein.

Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 01:01:36 AM

Don't get me wrong, I love the forum, I've spent 10 years here, but it saddens me to see it overrun with shitposting.

No problem with your assessment, yet you seem to be lumping the pushup thread within the same category of shit threads and/or spam-ladened threads, which surely my being a part of that thread causes me to question your seemingly rash assessment of the pushup's thread. Sure, maybe it is the case that 80-90% of the time we are talking about pushups rather than the BTC price, yet it still seems to be me that the overall motivation of the thread relates to the BTC price and some ideas throughout various parts of the bitcoin maximalist threads in the broader BTC community related to attempting to connect the doing of daily pushups to bitcoin and/or to the BTC price.

Sure, there are also several elements that are somewhat stupid, lame and even superstitious to proclaim that getting more guys (and perhaps a gal or two) to do pushups as a way to contribute to the BTC price going to $100k more quickly than it otherwise do, and perhaps I even agree with you that the connection of the thread to price speculation might not be a very strong one, even though it is quite likely that very few of the forum's members would have had gotten involved in the thread if it were not in the bitcoin speculation section of the forum, even if some of the forum members might have further motives of getting paid for their signature posts and even if some of the members might be abusing their signature posts, which seems more of a policing matter for signature campaign managers rather than some kind of a forum-wide problem to allow that thread to remain in the bitcoin speculation section of the forum... which of course is also a discretionary matter for forum administrators, and I am not even proclaiming that they are necessarily going to be correct in their categorization decisions, yet they have rights and abilities to exercise discretion in regards to some of these matters that might be able to be called in either direction...and forum members are not always going to agree or to be happy with some of their categorization decisions.... I recall some threads on having a separate area for privacy/security that a lot of members agree to be a good thing, yet it seems that to date, forum administrators have not agreed to create such separate area of the forum.

Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 01:01:36 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 22, 2024, 10:47:23 PM

Have you ever considered that people will see the world differently based on a variety of experiential factors? and maybe even genetic factors? (nature versus nurture questions)..

Even if we read the same threads, we might not come to the same conclusions.

Of course. I don't want you to make the same conclusions, I want you to make informed conclusions. If you read 100 threads in BD and still think I'm too negative, I'll add "Negative Nancy" to my signature for 3 months.

It could be the case that I had been exaggerating my point to call you names, yet still I doubt that I am calling you a negative nancy in all aspects or even proclaiming you to be unreasonable in other areas merely because I am proclaiming you to be on the wrong side on this matter since I am on the other side of it, at least at the moment... so I see no reason to read further into the matter in terms of our being on different sides of this particular issue and perhaps my attempts to exaggerate my side of the argument (on this issue and within this thread) in order to say that you are wrong and I am right... and perhaps I am not even that attached to my position either in terms of how attached I am to the pushups thread staying where it is rather than moving it merely based on a bunch of whiners that seem to be riled up by Don Pedro and several others jump on board, including you and some others who might merely be OgNasty haters.. .and surely, I am not much of a fan of OgNasty, even though he seems to have been mostly "behaving himself" (if such a thing is even possible?) in the pushups thread. hahahahaha to the extent that it even matters in regard to some of the objections to the thread being about him.

Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 01:01:36 AM

As for shitposting percentages and whatnot... I don't really get what purpose is served by ANY percentage of shitposting. It just shouldn't be there. Granted if the amount of shitposts was really low, I would probably just skim over and forget about it, but when I see generic vague word salad occurring so often as to impede my ability to follow the actual thread and/or waste my time to the point where even the ignore function is useless because there are thousands of these word-salad accounts, that's fucked up, no matter how noble the intent of the thread is or how tolerant other users or moderators are etc.

You seem to be making an assessment of shitposting in the forum overall rather than focusing on what is happening in the pushup's thread. Sure, there are some gobbledy-gook posts in the pushups thread, yet it seems to become more difficult to have gobbledy-gook posts when we are largely talking about pushups and the BTC price, so I doubt that there are very many posts within that thread that deviate very much from the topic, even though surely there are going to be times in which any thread deviates and there might be some questions regarding how related the posts are to the thread and the extent to which the posts need to be reigned in or the member might need to be questioned in regards to his attempts at derailing the thread or merely posting to get signature campaign credit.

By the way, if you happen to be mostly a bitcoin HODLer who is benefiting from the BTC price going up and/or not going down, then it seems to me that you and those similarly situated to you should be thanking the various pushers around the world, whether in the forum's pushup thread or in other parts of the social-media space to have had been doing these proof of work (and quite difficult to sustain) pushups that have likely contributed to the BTC price staying up and failing/refusing to dip beyond certain levels.. so even if we have not quite yet achieved our goal of at least $100k per coin, there may well have had been some ongoing uppity pressures on the BTC price to make it much more difficult for the BTC price to correct as far as it would have otherwise have had corrected absent the various pushers in the pushup thread and/or in other places around the social media space (and in the real world) constituting bitcoinlandia. Wink

You can thank us (royal me) later. Tongue

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on Today at 04:12:59 AM

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on October 22, 2024, 03:46:13 PM

It's impressive [?] how confidently you assert your knowledge, but true wisdom often lies in recognizing the limits of one's understanding [of course you don't have one, haven't you?]. If you consider others to be ignorant, you might be overlooking the value of diverse perspectives and experiences that could enrich your knowledge. Embracing humility and curiosity is far more enlightening than clinging to the idea that you hold all the answers. In fact, it's often those who think they know it all who are the most blind to their own ignorance.

You are the next candidate for my ignore list but just so you know instead of being fat and needing a personal trainer like you said in the stupid thread, I could be a personal trainer and I am capable of doing things that you will never be able to do no matter how much you train.

It seems to me that bitcoin is open to anyone.. friends and enemies, which would include fit people and fat people, and surely pushups do provide an avenue to attempt to improve oneself, yet surely pushups are completely voluntary, and there are going to be some bitcoiners who are neither able to do pushups and/or who might not be in a health position to be able to engage in such activity.

Of course, in the thread, I had mentioned to BitcoinGirl.Club that he should attempt to try to get to at least 10 pushups per day to get included into the pushups' table, yet DirtyKeyboard's pushup script does not currently exclude members based on the number of pushups that they are reporting, so long as they report their pushups within the recognized pushup report format that the script reads. Sure there are some criteria for how the script reads the pushup report format, yet DirtyKeyboard seems to have customized the script to cause it to be fairly liberal in regards to some of the common pushup report format mistakes that some of the forum members had been making, so it seems several members have gotten pretty good at submitting their pushup reports in such a way that the script will put the correct (or intended correct) information into the daily pushup tables that have been being published at around midnight each day (UTC time).

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on Today at 04:12:59 AM

When I started this thread I thought that the things that I know that are common knowledge for someone who is involved in the subject would be known in this forum but seeing the whining responses of the ginxers I can see that they have never set foot in a gym in their fucking life.

You seem to not recognize and/or appreciate that the pushup thread is not merely about pushups and/or showing off supposed physical prowess, and so if there are any whining haters in regards to the topic of the place of pushups in connection to bitcoin, you might as well look in the mirror since you seem to not even know what the pushup thread is about an you seem to be too busy reading your own seemingly narrow/hater ideas into the pushups thread... almost like a shitcoiner who cannot figure out the difference between bitcoin and shitcoins, even though he has enough ideas about each to make him dangerous when he tries to act like he knows everything and lets his ego get in the way of his understanding of how bitcoin differs from shitcoins, just like the pushups thread differs from mere pushups and differs from ideas of physical fitness and prowess too, since the topic of pushups within that thread is being propagated in the context of bitcoin ideas and bitcoin price speculation, such as the hopes of many of the regular pushup participants that bitcoin gets to $100k as soon as possible so that we (they) will have the option to stop doing pushups and proclaim that our mission has been accomplished.

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on Today at 04:12:59 AM

Quote from: joker_josue on October 22, 2024, 07:33:25 PM

Aren't you taking the term "100 push-ups a day" too literally?

All your responses in this thread have been along the same lines, ‘it's just a joke’ ‘you take it too seriously’. If it's OK to have that kind of joke in the speculation section, it's OK to have this one too.

You can spin the matter however you like, you little hater, Don Pedro, even if there may well be some joking matters to make the pushups' subject light and/or fun, in the whole scheme of things, being able to do pushups regularly (and in reality rather than just in theory) is no joking matter, whether guys (and perhaps a gal or two) choose to do 100 pushups per day and every single day or chooses some other variation of pushups that might not be quite 100 pushups per day.....including that it seems that there had been quite a few forum members who either dropped out of participation in the pushups' thread, and some of them even came back and admitted that either doing pushups is too difficult and/or that they had expected the BTC price to go to $100k more quickly than it has been playing out in the real world (up until now). There are also several of us, including those of us who seem to have had been doing pushups every single day for several months in a row, who have been proclaiming that we are not sure if we are able to continue doing pushups since some of us had presumed that the BTC price was going to reach $100k much sooner and that many of us thought that the BTC price would have had already reached $100k, so in some sense, the commitment to doing pushups every single day had become a greater commitment than many of us had already speculated to be possible, while at the same time, resolve to continue to do pushups every single day can be brought into question, including that sometimes there could be suggestions that some members cut down on their quantity of daily pushups in order to continue to do them on a daily basis rather than to stop doing them completely... and none of this is easy, just like HODLing bitcoin is not easy, either.. for any of us who actually know about the temptations that HODLers frequently face.

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on Today at 04:12:59 AM

People on the push-ups thread jinxing the price.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 22, 2024, 03:21:04 PM

You can spin matters all that you like.

Says the forum's best-known matter spinner.

I am not sure if I should take that as a compliment or not, even though surely you are saying it as if it were a negative characteristic of yours truly. I might have to ponder a bit further upon the idea.

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on Today at 04:12:59 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 22, 2024, 03:21:04 PM

The programme that you refer to is not what we are doing.

Really?

Yes. Really. It should be pretty damned obvious to anyone attempting to assess the matter in a somewhat objective way, which you seem to be challenged to engage in any kind of objective analysis... at least from what I have seen of your posts in recent times. Note I have not chosen to review other posts in your posting history to attempt to verify if you might have some analytical abilities that are better than the ones that you have been showing in some of your recent posts related to the pushup thread topic.

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on Today at 04:12:59 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 22, 2024, 03:21:04 PM

We are doing bitcoin to $100k pushups which is a different thing from "the programme" which you are claiming to be superior.

This is not exactly the case. The programme I put up is not stupid, so you can understand that it is superior, yes.

My point is that our pushup thread is not just about pushups, so even if the thread that you pointed out is in fact superior in the context of doing pushups, which surely is possible, if the programme is not including bitcoin into the topic or the context of doing pushups in regards to aspiring that the BTC price goes to $100k, which is the context of the forum's pushup thread, then that topic might relate to the pushup's thread, but it is not the same as the pushup's thread since we are engaging in our pushups in a kind of forum community way and also in a context of a broader bitcoin community kind of way that retains bitcoin and bitcoin prices within the context of doing the pushups, so surely there is a bit of a unique dynamic in which many of us forum members are engaged in the creation of new content and even perhaps a new kind of culture around pushups as they relate to bitcoin, and we can even voluntarily choose to have our daily results memorialized through having a place on the daily pushups table too, whether we do hundreds of pushups per day or we do ONLY in the ballpark of 4 pushups per day - even though personally, I would prefer that DirtyKeyboard's script be customized to not allow any pushup results (pushers) to be included in the table unless they have at least an average of 10 pushups per day.

My idea is something like anyone is allowed to participate in the thread, yet if any member wants their pushup results to be included into the daily pushup table, then they need to submit pushup reports that show on average of at least 10 pushups per day. Of course, I am just one idea and surely, since DirtyKeyboard is writing and amending the script from time to time, he is ultimately the one who decides the extent to which such script language is something that he would prefer to include, and in the end, I am not really that attached to my idea in terms of my thoughts that the script and the daily publishing of pushups at midnight UTC every day is already amazing and quite beyond what many of us had expected to come out of our ongoing participation in the pushups thread for the past many months, including that the pushup's table was not even a part of the thread until a couple of months into the thread already being active, so the pushup table brought an additional dynamic to the thread, and surely increased the number of posts in the thread too, merely from the various kinds of back and forth ideas regarding what should be in the pushups table, how members should format their pushup reports and also just the daily posting of such table (that has turned into two tables for active versus inactive pushers).

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on Today at 04:12:59 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 22, 2024, 03:21:04 PM

One thing superior about our particular thread is that it is is within the context of talking about pushups and trying to do pushups every day until the BTC price reaches $100k. Is such a thing even possible for real people? If you are a real person, do you want to give it a shot? Go ahead. Try it. It is not so easy, especially trying to keep in mind the fact that you are doing pushups and also wishing the BTC price gets to fucking $100k as soon as possible so that you don't have to be committed to doing them every day. It's a bit of a unique angle, and perhaps a wee bit difficult for guys to understand and/or appreciate unless they are actually doing the pushups rather than theorizing about how pushups supposedly does not relate to BTC and/or the BTC price.

I live in the world of rationality and science, not in the world of stupidity.

I am glad that you consider yourself to be in such a rational/science world, even though your own recent actions/posts on this particular topic have not been reflecting very well upon your own assertions in regards to which world you claim to fit. Of course, you realize that part of the point that already made is that there likely needs to be some experiences to help any kind of rationality and science to make more sense, including many folks (including bitcoiners) might have some troubles with theoretical applications of math and/or logic, so it well could be the case that some bitcoiners are going to be able to develop better ideas and understanding in regards to how bitcoin holding and/or bitcoin accumulation fits into the real world when they are able to relate how being a bitcoiner can relate to doing pushups. For sure, different strokes for different folks in terms of how we might learn and how we might attempt to engage and to better inform ourselves about any topic, whether we are referring to bitcoin, pushups and/or other topics.

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on Today at 04:12:59 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 22, 2024, 03:21:04 PM

It sounds like you are making up your supposed level of knowledge about pushups, since the level of knowledge that you have both about pushups and how they relate to the BTC price going up to $100k is more likely understood by going through the experience rather than merely talking about it.

No, I don't need to do that to know that it has more to do with loincloth thinking than rational/scientific thinking.

One of the great things about the pushup thread being voluntary is that you don't need to participate, especially if you consider doing pushups to be dumb and doing pushups to not be related to bitcoin and/or to the bitcoin price. You have your right to differ in your opinion and also to proclaim that such things are not related and/or cannot be related, and other forum members can disagree with you about that.

From my perspective, you seem to be wanting to impose your own ideas and/or practices onto others rather than accepting that there are various other ways of viewing the world and various other practices that take place in the world, and the mere fact that you don't agree with those other ideas and/or practices does not necessarily make the ideas/practices stupid, even though you have the right to proclaim them to be stupid, whether you are correct or not.

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on Today at 04:12:59 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 22, 2024, 03:21:04 PM

Get on the ground and do 100 pushups and then tell me that you still know more than the guys who have been doing pushups in that thread for several months and some of the guys in the ballpark of 8 months or more.

I don't do that bullshit for spoiled children. I've been going to the gym for decades and I'm sure I beat you guys in bench press, which is the grown-up version of push-ups, to any of the guys in the thread.

Your choice. I am not proclaiming to be stronger and/or more fit than any other forum member, even if I have been posting that I have been doing pushups every day for the past 262 days (I have not posted my latest update, so today will be my 262 day doing pushups every day).

Surely guys are going to vary in their opinions on the topic of daily pushups, how pushups might relate to the bitcoin price, and even how to do pushups or how many pushups to do on a daily basis. Guys might even disagree whether daily pushups are necessary or beneficial or if some other period of time might be beneficial. Actually there are other guys in the thread who agree and/or disagree about how many pushup sets to do in a day or how many pushups to do in a set, whether to do the pushups fast or slow or the extent to which form matters or modifying pushups to make them easier or more difficult.

So, many of us might not agree on the ways to do pushups, why we are doing pushups or even whether doing pushups affect the bitcoin price and/or abilities to hold pushups or to buy more bitcoin or helps to psych ourselves into not selling our bitcoins or to convince us not to get involved in shitcoins. Guys are going to vary in regards to how the view the pushups that they are doing within their participation in that pushups thread.

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on Today at 04:12:59 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 22, 2024, 03:21:04 PM

I am not going to claim to know exactly the extent to which pushups might help in various ways besides just being able to do pushups, even though I would suspect that strength is improved in a variety of related areas besides just being able to do more pushups.

Let's see if you understand, JJG, you're arguing with me about things you have no idea about. Muscle grows when you rest, which doesn't happen if you do push-ups every day. Repeat after me:

Muscle grows when you rest, muscle grows when you rest, muscle grows when you rest, muscle grows when you rest, muscle grows when you rest

Even if you might be amongst the smartest of people in world in regards to physical fitness and how pushups as compared with other possible exercises might fit into such possible objectives, you also seem to be fairly easily distracted into your own fantasy in regards to relevancy of physical fitness into the pushups thread, and to me, it seems pretty apparent that the pushup thread is not merely about muscle growth, even though surely there may well be some guys who are participating in the pushups' thread who ONLY have that focus in terms of their own priorities.

There have been several points throughout the pushup thread in which I had mentioned that pushups will tend to be more of a resistance type of training rather than being considered as a cardio kind of training, and so as we get older (perhaps once we get in our late thirties or even into our 40s), it becomes more and more difficult to build and/or maintain muscle mass, so surely doing pushups seem that they could be helpful in regards to either building muscle mass or possibly to help folks with some possible prevention (and/or mitigation) of the loss of muscle mass as they are getting older.

So, yeah, if some of us are choosing to do pushups within a context of anticipating the BTC price to go up to $100k, then we likely could be sucked into a habit of doing pushups that ends up benefiting us in more than one way in regards to our own health or our own activity(ies) level.

Surely there could be some guys who might conclude that they don't want to participate in the pushup thread because they consider that there are better ways that they can work on and improve their physical fitness and/or health, and they purposefully state that they are against the idea of doing pushups, and surely there have been guys who have come to the pushup thread and chimed into the pushups' thread to make such assertions and to me it seems that those kinds of guys have mostly discontinued their participation in posting in that thread, so perhaps you happen to be speaking on the behalf of (representing) some of the forum members who are of the belief that there are better ways to achieve physical fitness, if that might happen to be one of the goals of some of the forum members who may or may not want to consider their participation in the pushup thread to be beneficial to their own health.. whether some of them might have consider the pushup subject matter related to the BTC price or to BTC price speculation or not.

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on Today at 06:03:04 AM

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on October 16, 2024, 04:25:18 AM

100 Push-Ups A Day Until Bitcoin Is $100K Challenge

I had seen the thread before and I guess because of the title I hadn't stopped to read it but now I see that it is 174 pages long, a spam megathread at its best.

At first you might think that this is just a funny way of doing sport, but no, if you know anything about physical education, doing 100 push-ups a day is bollocks to begin with, but here's what's most relevant:

I disagree with the title, but yeah, you are valid with some claims and I've said it similarly to yours once on the thread. Perhaps there are true Bitcoin faithful who would make sure they do that for their love and dedication for the coin, but I can assure you that over 99.99% of those who are regularly posting there have not moved their arms for the purpose a day. They are there to say what people want to hear and it goes on like that.

Another thing is that the profile of the person who opened a thread matters. If it were to be another user, the topic might have long been forgotten.

Currently there are 75 forum members who are included in the daily pushups table, and as far as I know, none of those forum members have been removed from the pushup table once their name is on the pushup table, even if they do not submit an updated pushup report within the past 30 days, their name will be moved from the active to the inactive table, yet their number still counts towards the total of 75 members on the table.

There have been several forum members also who have chimed into that thread and who stated that they did some pushups in the spirit of the thread, yet if they did not write their results in the proper format of a pushup report that could be readable by DirtyKeyboard's script, then their results would not have had been included into the table.

So I will surmise that perhaps somewhere in the ballpark of 100 forum members have chimed into the pushup thread and proclaimed that they are doing pushups in the spirit of participating in the thread and participating in the idea of doing pushups in hope that the BTC price rises to $100k soonish^tm. 99.9% fake means that less than 1 person has actually done any actual pushups in the real world. That is quite the extraordinary claim if I say so myself.

Surely, you don't help your own credibility when you represent that 99.9% of the claims are made up... but then maybe you could be redeemed since you are narrowing down your claim to assert that the "regular" participants in that thread are the ones who are not doing any actual pushups.. 99.9% of them (us). Even if some of us might be jaded, skeptical, conspiracy theorists, negative Nancy(ies) or whatever, it seems a bit outrageous to proclaim that 99.9% of the regular participants of that thread are just making shit up, at least in regards to their own real world doing of some variation of the activities they (we) claim to be doing.

You likely need to revise your own numbers if you actually believe the bullshit that you are proclaiming to be some kind of a fair representation of what is happening in the thread and how the thread relates to real world activities, as if you have shown that you seem to have hardly any clue about what is real versus what is fake in the first place.

By the way, I will assert also that my own representation that you are so damned full of shit that it is hardly even funny (even though maybe it is a bit funny how much forum members devolve into exaggerating when they are trying to make some lame-ass point) creates no obligation for me or any other pushup thread participant to actually prove to anyone that they are actually doing any of the pushups that they are claiming to do. I will also proclaim that even with no ability to prove that pushup participating members are doing the pushups that they claim to be doing, there still are likely a decent amount of forum members actually doing the pushups that they claim to be doing.. perhaps even greater than 50% of the members on the pushup table and/or who have otherwise chimed into the thread and represented that they had done a certain quantity of pushups in the real world whether they claimed to have had done one pushup or claimed to have had done many multiples and/or magnitudes greater than 1 pushup.

In other words, you (and the other claiming that forum members are largely just making shit up) can fuck off with your outrageous pie in the sky (lacking of evidence) claims that no pushups (or hardly any) real world pushups are actually being done in light of the inspirations of the current 180-ish pages of the pushups thread. My own chest, shoulders, arms, neck, toes, other body parts and even overall body frequently hurts to remind me and to help me to figure out that some guy(s) are likely doing actual real world pushups rather than just making shit up as you are proclaiming, and also I think that I have some confidence that I am not living in a complete fucking illusion in terms of being able to count on some forum members (besides only me) being actual real life people who are engaging in real life and real world physically material activities, including that each and everyone of the real world guys are going to end up dead some day (since death is one of the things that real people can count on happening some day), and surely it seems that pushups could be more helpful to the living of real life guys in a longer life as compared with not doing such pushups, even if they might have had been inspired to do their real life pushups by forum members who might not have had been real life guys (and a gal or two) doing such pushups and even if pushups end up having no actual real world effect on BTC price or BTC prices getting to $100k faster by various forum members doing pushups (or claiming to do pushups) as contrasted with not doing the pushups and/or not claiming to do pushups.

We have also talked about proof of pushups in the thread, so it is not like a mystery topic, and surely even that topic can relate to bitcoin as well, since we can contrast proof of work (in the context of bitcoin) to proof of work in the context of pushups, and surely several of us have even discussed the possibility of meeting up in the real world and then whether or not we might feel some kind of a need to show proof of pushups, and I have actually heard of some guys (in podcast discussions) mentioning that they had ended up engaging in real world pushups in order to help lend some credibility to their actually being able to do pushups to even establish that they have some credibility to their claims of doing pushups on a daily basis. I cannot remember the exact podcast that I came across such discussion, yet for some reason Ben Perrin from BTC Sessions is coming to mind as the guy who was talking about guys (perhaps himself) doing real world pushups to help to establish that they really are doing pushups as they claim to be doing (here's one of his latest podcast episodes).

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on Today at 08:35:49 AM

I haven't dug too deep in to the thread, and rn is the first time seeing it. I have no idea if and how bad the merit sourcing/farming has been, so I say all this a bit blinded atm. OG cares, and does do stuff like this to make the forum more fun. Maybe ill feel diff after reading, and will share with OG my thoughts (@OGNasty, had some other thing to discuss unrelated anyhow, chat soon)

I am shocked at how few have gone through the Martin/Sirius-Satoshi emails or even know how to find it. It's fn fantastic. I can't get enough! Still some to finish myself, but almost done... do yourself a favor!! https://mmalmi.github.io/satoshi/

The pushups' thread is arguably close to as much fun (if perhaps even more funner) than carving bitcoin-related pumpkins although either activity has its benefits and/or its dangers. #justsaying

Maybe next year consider the possibility that the carving of pumpkins might contribute towards bitcoin's price direction, even though I probably would argue that it is much more difficult to establish some kind of a daily activity out of the carving of pumpkins as compared with doing pushups on a daily basis (or perhaps less than daily basis for some folks).