Quote from: telesnake on November 01, 2024, 01:26:22 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 21, 2024, 05:54:13 AM

This contributes to the labor shortage.

Thanks for mass importing more strike breakers from Mexico, Bro! Way so support the working class! You must spend all day around working folks to have your finger on the pulse of America like that. Major sarcasm starting to pile on now. Wink

Quote from: TwitchySeal

This isn't true, but yeah Americans that choose not to work contributes to labor shortage.

(note the scale on this graph. The current rate is only 4% lower than the 20 year high)

The only point when it was lower was during the pandemic.
And the US has been in decline for... about 20 years now, so your data not sayin much. Clearly at an unhealthy historic low. But eh, nothing mass importing 10 million more strike breakers from Mexico can't fix, amirite?

The chart can be misleading, which is why I mentioned taking notice of the scale.

Here's what it looks like relative to the population:

Quote from: telesnake on November 01, 2024, 01:26:22 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal

Not sure your angle here on how it's relevant. Sounds like Uber could solve this problem and make more money by reducing driver pay though.

Captain obvious here: THERE ARE NO GOOD JOBS IN AMERICA! DUHHHHH. Millions of people would not be waiting on Uber and other shit apps for fares and jobs if there were. Stop LYING TO US!
But I'm sure you'd like it if Uber hired migrants and cut wages even more.

I bet you've given rides to plenty of people with good jobs.

Quote from: telesnake on November 01, 2024, 01:26:22 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal

There is plenty of affordable housing in America.

Of all the things you've said, this is the dumbest and most out of touch. Just ignore the homeless encampments!
lol, average home price is like $400k. You're really nasty to normal Americans atp. You must loath regular people.

The average price that someone buying a single family home is $400k.

The average monthly rent is around $1500, unless you qualify for some sort of affordable housing program for people with lower incomes, then I believe you can get an apartment for under $1k/month in many parts of the country.

Quote from: telesnake on November 01, 2024, 01:26:22 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal

A single immigrant working minimum wage for 18 years while their kid grows up will pay over 50k in taxes on the conservative side, not including 7% ss and medicare tax - which they will only benefit from because they worked for 10+ years. All the immigrants that work a few years and leave, their social security payments go to you.

And 12 years in school for ONE KID comes to $180k, hmmm... not to mention healthcare costs, generally driving up the price of everything and driving down wages. Migrants = locust, deal with it.

In summation, you've essentially said "I hate America, I hate Americans. There are no real struggling folks in America. All poor folks in America are just lazy and stupid."

You don't even recognize the existence of the people you're up against. No wonder they support Trump. I

I don't understand what would make an immigrant living and working in America, paying taxes and raising a family different than your average American.

We're all humans. It's not like we don't have enough room. And most of us are only in America today because someone else immigrated here sometime in the past 50-150 years and then found a job and raised a family.