Quote from: paxmao on November 08, 2024, 11:48:23 PM

Ok, so a few posts ago you were leaning towards Trump, but now...what am I reading here? Somehow you are now leaning towards not letting Trump do Trump things?

I assume you're referring to me saying "I lean towards Trump as the slightly safer option", maybe a better way to put it is that I lean further away from Kamala than I lean away from Trump? Neither represent who I'd want to lean towards.

Quote from: paxmao on November 08, 2024, 11:48:23 PM

One of the main reasons to not elect Trump I mentioned several times was the level and types of risks that were associated with him and another very big reason is that he owns the Republican party and has been placing his people all over during years. There is no Republican party as you used to know it before him, he has taken it and anyone who dares to oppose goes to the political graveyard.

I don't think he owns everyone who represents a republican, although certainly there are many diehard supporters on the right. And there are many diehard supporters on the left. Overall, both candidates here represented too many risks on each side for me, that's why it felt like the extreme's of both sides were running, which creates more division between people with different opinions. There are many republicans that I don't think really like Trump, some maybe not as outspoken as others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_opposed_the_Donald_Trump_2024_presidential_campaign

Quote from: Richy_T on November 10, 2024, 04:38:40 PM

Your confusion with Kamala is due to a misunderstanding of the nature of the party. The whole "danger to democracy" schtick talking point they espouse tells you exactly what's going on. Trump won the nomination because that's what people wanted. The Democrat party had already picked a different candidate, in case you don't remember. You weren't allowed him. This has been a theme.

I didn't like the timing of the swap but I could never really see Biden as a serious option. Outside of any policies or changes he was going to pitch, his cognitive decline, or whatever health issue he is going through, wasn't something I was going to be OK with for 4 more years given the state of the country & world. I could have made that statement well before he announced he was re-running, based on videos I saw, speeches I heard, etc.

I really thought someone else was going to take the reigns at some point sooner, but gave up on that thought as time passed... then bam there was Kamala. *shrug* Bitter sweet because at least there was another option to look at seriously, but then it appeared to be the same stuff from the past 4 years and pushing it further, which I also wasn't going to be OK with. *shrug*