Quote from: new19980 on November 15, 2024, 05:54:16 PM

What Trezor Did? why are you saying Both? are you saying that Trezor also not safe despite its open source ?

o_e_l_e_o is sadly no longer with us, so he can't answer any of your questions. Trezor didn't do what Ledger did by introducing seed extraction firmware and code, and that's not what o_e_l_e_o meant when he wrote that post. I remember o_e_l_e_o's issues with Trezor are the following:

- Trezor has an unfixable hardware vulnerability in their older devices, making it possible to extract PINs and private keys by someone who knows what they are doing. It's an attack that doesn't require expensive equipment but it does require physical access to the device. It can't happen remotely and over the internet. The hacker needs your Trezor in their hands. This can't be fixed with a software update. I think Trezor 3 and 5 don't suffer from this vulnerability due to the introduction of secure elements.

- Trezor introduced Wasabi coinjoins through zkSNACKs. This was an entity that portrayed itself as the savior of bitcoin and the ultimate privacy tool on the market. At the same time, they funded and partnered with blockchain analysis tools to try and deanonymize bitcoin transactions and they didn't treat all bitcoin equally. They considered some "dirty" and "tainted" and not fit to participate in their coinjoins. Other coins were "clean."

Quote from: new19980 on November 15, 2024, 05:54:16 PM

I think Trezor is using Closed source Elemnt Chip on the safe 3 and safe 5 models its not open source

Right. I covered this in a different thread you posted in yesterday.