Quote from: IconicExpert on April 30, 2014, 03:20:17 PM

Quote from: digicidal on April 30, 2014, 12:59:54 PM

I think this is a good step forward - however, despite having some difference of opinions with IE... I fully support his endeavors without reserve. I agree that the coin as a brand needs a coherent team behind development - but that's what the "DEV TEAM" should be involved with. If BlackCoin was a corporation with a board of directors and officers... with a commercial product, etc... then I might feel differently. However, I think the relatively overnight success has blinded some people to the facts.

Like all crypto currencies (even Bitcoin) there is no central board of directors - and even when there are... you don't see anyone (except Apple possibly) running all over the web trying to discount enthusiastic individuals' efforts to promote their brand/product simply because their marketing department didn't "bless it appropriately".

As there was no true 'premine' with BC (despite what those late to the party would like people to believe) the road ahead seems very simple to me. If you support someone's efforts - do it with your BlackCoins!

I would propose, rather than a "BlackCoin Foundation" that all members have individual BC addresses posted - so that they may operate on the budgets indicated by donations to those. I know I've donated a few times to both Soepkip and rat4... as well as to TDG for multipool promotions and to IE for past efforts (and will again in the future undoubtedly).

I would further propose that we have some 'bounty donations' for improvements, especially to the wallets to make them stand out feature-wise against those which have subsequently copied and pasted their way to limited success. However, bickering one way or the other doesn't really help. If you believe there are better ways IE could approach something - suggest it (I'm sure he will consider other ideas) - and if you're convinced you could do a better job... then just do it - and let everyone know about it when you do. Wink

Same goes for the 'foundation' group... if you think things should be different... contact Soepkip directly - that's his 'job'. If you think IE could use more/less support - then contact him directly. If there is anything that will kill BlackCoin - or help it succeed - it's the community or lack thereof.

Although having lurked around this and other Bitcoin forums a couple years ago... this is nothing new and all of this basically has to happen for cohesion to develop... much of which will only occur after numerous 'shakeouts' of weaker hands. Granted it's different now with all the competition arising daily, but people are people no matter where you go. Cheesy

Thank you for your comments. I do not expect everyone to agree all the time. All communities have disagreements and that is the nature of a community. It is impossible to agree on everything and disagreements will erupt from time to time. However, we all want to see BC flourish and we are suppose to work together to achieve that common goal. I do not care about the "spotlight" and I encourage other people to come forward with cool ideas and I will support their ideas like most people support my ideas. If someone doesn't agree with something someone proposes then a healthy debate is needed. But I am tired of the personal attacks and the deliberate sabotage. If you look at my previous posts I never criticize other members projects. All I care about is getting BC to #1, and every time we go one step forward someone seems to want to push us back.

I agree that you have done many great things (and obviously continue to do so). I also agree that you have been supportive of others' efforts in promoting BC and/or expanding it's influence. However, I think you also should be aware of how poorly the emotional attacks on other coins and calls for market manipulation (or threats of it - whether PUMPING blackcoin or threatening to DUMP whitecoin) reflect on your overall character.

I appreciate that you are an energetic and enthusiastic supporter of BC - I think we are all lucky to have you here. However, as someone with marketing experience, you of all people should know that you are judged based on image as much as substance. The IconicExpert of substance (PR, BlackCards, etc.) is without question a great asset to the community - but your image on the other hand has been damaged in many people's eyes as being too similar to those who have only selfish or possibly even destructive intentions.

The good thing is that people also usually tend to only judge you based on the most recent memory... so soon the 'ragged nerves' on both sides should calm down and we can hopefully get back to business. FWIW - tossed some defensive opinion on that article's comments - hopefully a couterpoint will have some mitigating results.