Quote from: Alpha Marine on Today at 07:00:42 PM

Quote from: Dump3er on Today at 06:45:18 PM

I know that Barcelona was so often talked about and how they have more than a billion in debt, but it never had the serious consequences everyone thought it would have. There is so much politics going on behind the scenes, I think this would be the same for Manchester City.

That is because people did not really know what they're talking about. Te media, especially the english media kept using Barcelona for click bait and the fans, mostly rival fans didn't even bother to find out what was really going on, they just ran with whatever agenda they wanted.
Same thing with the Manchester City case right now. Rival fans have notread the charges to see if they even made sense. Some don't even care if its true, they just want Manchester City to be punished.

Barcelona was in debt, so is every other club. Check all the big clubs in Europe, you'll see that every single one of them is in at least 300 million debt. Most are in a debt worth 500 million.
Barcelona's main problem is not that they were not generating money, but they could spend only a quarter of the money they made a year. I believe you've heard the "1:4" saying. That's what it means.

Most of Barcelona's problems where they couldn't register players were because of the restrictions of La liga. Every season, La liga publishes the salary cap of each club and due to the debt of Barcelona, their salary cap was too low. So even if they made a billion every day, they couldn't have a total salary that's above the number La liga has given to them. That was why they relied on free transfers and had to release a lot their players and reduce the salaries of their players.

I haven't been thinking about it from that angle, but you are correct, it is mostly the rival fans who want to see a club get beaten up that they dislike or don't care about. You would never hear a Barcelona fan say that it is time for the club to get punished.

Never heard of the 1:4 rule, but has this to do with a liquidity shortage because they were forced to serve their debt and that consumed a lot of money or has it to do with something else?

As far as I know Bayern Munich is debt free.

I found this though

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In the 2022/23 season, the combined revenue of all Premier League clubs amounted to nearly seven billion euros, with wage costs totaling over 4.6 billion euros. Overall, the league's wages to revenue ratio amounted to 66 percent.

and it is higher than 1/4th for all seasons listed on that website and I think it is in every league. Can you give some credible link about the 1:4 saying?

But whatever is correct, I have only gathered my information about Manchester City from the media and I still have no clue whether the allegations are appropriate or not. I think anyway that there is so much lack of transparency that the normal guy would never find out whether they have got a case against clubs like PSG and Manchester City or not. But I doubt that we will see one of these major clubs get banned from the first division in their respective countries.