Re: Ledger Recovery - Send your (encrypted) recovery phrase to 3rd parties entities
It turns out that belief in the vulnerability of ledgeris similar to belief in ghosts and UFOs - no one has seen them, can't prove their existence, but convinced that they definitely exist. 
UFO are literally Unidentified Flying Object, so obviously someone saw them, but not identified.I can also show real security vulnerability for previous version of ledger devices, and I can argue that ledger recover is another intentional ''vulnerability''.
I don't think you can setup a Ledger hardware wallet without their software: you need to "install" each coin on the device. But even if we ignore this, avoiding Ledger's software isn't enough if there's a possibility of malware to target the device.
One guy tried to do it, and he even release source code on github, but I dodn't follow how far he went with that project.I think that the encryption part take place inside hardware wallet.
Really? 
It's not happening inside toaster obviously...