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Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 03:25:13 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 03:02:51 AM

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I don't bet I hope I lose less.

Maybe each of us engage in a variety of proposing ideas or taking actions in accordance with our beliefs. How we frame it might fall into a variety of categories and conditional to the circumstances.

Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 03:25:13 AM

in the case of you the 0.0105
In this address

https://btc2.trezor.io/address/3Mw9mvjTjWtpxhmctdLa5Awj5gGUbSChKV
is now 1009 usd up from 291 usd.

but I need to live till 105 ie jan 2062 to give it away.
Its worth hoping for.
It is far enough in the future that it could be more than 1 million bucks.

Yes.. that is interesting, since you communicated a promise (or a gift), more or less, upon your living to 105 years, and surely if i were to still be alive, which is quite doubtful, then I could receive .. and we had a contingency that fillippone could receive in the event that I am not alive, which also presumes that he would be alive...

Maybe the surprise would be if you were to make it and neither of us were still alive, then you would have your own consciousness to deal with in terms of to where such proceeds would go. I imagine that you have contingencies that if you die prior to reaching 105 years, then that 0.0105 BTC would go into your estate.. and yeah, a kind of self-imposed forced HODL.. which surely you might get tempted to tap into it - especially if you were to lose communication with me and/or fillippone and to be unsure about the status of either of us and/or the need to maintain your proclamation of a gift.

I recall that fillippone is the beneficiary of another gift from proudhon, and I cannot remember the terms, but it has to do with the BTC price reaching a certain level. Gifts can be a tricky category, since they are unilateral rather the bilateral aspect of a bet, and surely there seems to be an ability to retract them at any time and so the recipient is not exactly entitled to receive them, even if their might have had been reliance upon the receipt of such gift.

It's not too common that the quality of life is going to be very great in the later years, even though there have been examples of quite elderly folks staying fairly active until their final days and some times getting into their late 90s and into their 100s and still being somewhat active.

It surely is not out of the question that 0.0105 could be close to or even more than $1 million in early 2062.. that is like 9.5 more halvenings... and even a doubling of the current price every halvening from here might bring us to $51.2 million per bitcoin in 2060 and $102.4 million in 2024, so maybe $75 million in 2062, which would put 0.0105 BTC to be valued at $787,500

2024 0) $100k

2028 1) $200k

2032 2) $400k

2036 3) $800k

2040 4) $1.6M

2044 5) $3.2M

2048 6) $6.4M

2052 7) $12.8M

2056 8 ) $25.6M

2060 9) $51.2M

2064 10) $102.4M

They are big numbers, but surely not impossible..

I was thinking after looking at it today that I should match it. Drop in another 0.0105

and if I make it to 105 and either you or fillippone are alive that giving the 0.0105 away would be far less painful if I had a matching amount. Hmm I will consider that.