Quote from: freedomgo on December 27, 2024, 11:18:35 AM

Quote from: Smartprofit on December 23, 2024, 07:22:03 PM

Of course, you can go through KYC and AML procedures, but you need to understand that civil rights are difficult to obtain and very easy to lose.

Today you go through KYC and AML procedures, and tomorrow you will be forced to use CBDC, the day after tomorrow you will be given a social rating, and then you will find yourself in a digital concentration camp ...

And each time there will be a reasonable explanation for this - "We protect you from fraud and crime!"

Those who now require KYC and AML procedures are insatiable when it comes to controlling people and their money. The ideal option for them would be the following - people do not own any property (including money), people can use some types of property (including money) subject to complete loyalty and unconditional compliance with the established rules. In case of violation of any established rule, a person is automatically alienated from property (including money) - because neither property nor money belong to a person (he only uses them). We hardly want to live in such a dystopia, but KYC and AML procedures are a step in this direction...

I completely understand your sentiment, however, that’s not the reality we’re living in now. The governments will always push for centralization, which goes against the very purpose of using Bitcoin or crypto in general. The questions and discussions around these topics are based on the actual procedures governments are enforcing now. We can decide to comply or not, but we should always be aware of the consequences of non-compliance, and I know we want to protect our privacy, however, if there’s no option left, sometimes we’re forced to follow the system that’s already in place. though, it’s not ideal, but it’s the reality.

In my opinion, most entities that seem important to us are unreal.

Our bodies, our planet, the sun, animals, birds, plants, nature, physical laws, mathematics, etc. are real.

Unreal abstractions are things that are important to us, such as states, money, corporations, legal laws, social rules, etc. Since humans are essentially highly social animals, unreal abstractions that are the subject of agreement between large numbers of people are very important to them.

For example, humans die less often from hunger, disasters, and attacks by wild animals (real attacks) than from heart attacks and strokes associated with all sorts of social interspecies conflicts.

Bitcoin is a real entity, since it is mined with real computing devices (ASICs), mining requires electricity, and the emission of bitcoins is based on mathematics. But KYC and AML procedures are absolutely unrealistic abstract rules, essentially the arbitrariness of certain (even influential) individuals.

What to do with all this?
First, realize that KYC and AML are unrealistic, abstract rules.
Second, tell other people about it.
Third, use every opportunity to avoid these procedures, as this harms not only you personally, but all Bitcoin network users. There is a saying - it is better to be hard sand in the mechanism of doomsday than oil grease.