Quote from: BADecker on Today at 07:34:30 AM

But the truest info can be found in the video...USA, Soviet Heated Argument | You Only Live Twice (1967)
Did you watch the video?

- The US is against Russia no matter what. Russia could do good, do nothing, or do bad and the US would be against her.

- Russia simply continues along without bothering anybody to speak of. Of course, when the US leans on Russia a little too hard, Russia leans back some. But in general, Russia is a peace-loving people.

- But the Brits are different. They think that the intruder missile came down in the Sea of Japan area... when everybody knows it took out a big, multi-embassy, embassy building in Kiev, Ukraine.

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Quote from: paxmao on December 24, 2024, 09:46:47 PM

Quote from: BADecker on December 23, 2024, 11:21:12 PM

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Russia has shown over and over that they are a peace-loving country.

The war was started by Ukraine in or before 2014.

Russia finally had to invade in 2022 just to stop the Ukrainian war.
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This is as usual false information, to the point that it belongs in a parallel universe.

There was a treaty by which Ukraine - a peace loving country - gave away their nukes for guarantees of protection - which have failed (that is the US failing once more to live to promises).

Ruzzia invaded Crimea in 2014 - there was not war whatsoever, the only reason was that Ukraine was considering not leasing Sebastopol to Ruzzia - which is their right as sovereign country.

Ruzzia was waging war in Ukraine - not the opposite - in the Dombas region - we are talking 2 Ruzzia army corps fighting and posing as "rebels" but financed 100% from Moscow. Then Ruzzia decided to up this a notch with their botched "special operation".

Not even the most abject of the Kremlin apologists dares to say that "Ukraine attacked Ruzzia" - you need a dumBAss like you for that job.

All your blab about the war doesn't really present an overview of history. You can't accurately determine what is going on in the area until you realize that it was the US and the UK - along with some wealthy financiers - that made the Bolshevik Revolution happen. And if they hadn't injected a bunch of funds into the Bolshevik takeover afterward, it would have fallen shortly after it succeeded.

When you don't include this history, you can't come away with the right picture. This history and other is what Putin was telling Tucker in his interview, hoping that somebody would understand. It's reasonably common knowledge history. If you haven't looked, start here https://duckduckgo.com/?q=who+financed+the+bolsheviks%3F&ia=web.

The whole history of the USSR and Russia following this is based on the US and the UK - along with some wealthy financiers - trying to steal the Russian and Siberian lands from the Russia people.

I'll give you a big hint regarding what is really going on. The people who think they can take over the world don't really care where they do it from. If they can't do it by winning a war with Russia one way, they'll do it a different way. Much of it is a game to them... just to see if they can do it. They don't really care how many troops die on either side.

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Yesm you can skip over largerly irrelevant parts of history - e.g. when Ruzzia was ruled from Kiev - and still perfectly understand that Ukraine has not attacked Ruzzia, but rather the opposite. Moscow created a frozen conflict in the Dombas and then used it to further take Crimean. There is no Ukranian agression whatsoever in all this and you do not need to go to the theories about the Mechivick or Bolshevik revolutions and how was it promoted.