Quote from: bitmover on December 28, 2024, 06:20:56 AM

Quote from: Gachapin on December 28, 2024, 06:16:00 AM

The Trezor with a sophisticated pin is even more secure than the Trezor with a secure element! Because it doesn't use these closed source Secure Elements, that can probably be readout by the companies that produces them, or by people who get their hands on the companies secret.

With a good PIN you can go open source and and also eradicate the risk that physical access brings, at the same time!
I would feel more safe loosing a Trezor secured with a 128 Bit PIN than one with a SE.

I agree about the PIN.
I use so small pin in my ledger. I will probably change that soon, as I am a bit worried about it recently.

I created those pin almost 10 y ago. I use 2 pin (as I have one hidden wallet with passphrase).

Poor thing that you use Ledger.

Fuck Ledger.^**

^**Nothing personal. I could not help myself and prevent myself from typing such a thing.. a similar feeling that I get when I hear someone say that they hold any more than 10% of the value of their BTC stashin something like ethereum or any other shitcoin.

Quote from: Gachapin on December 28, 2024, 06:23:09 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on December 28, 2024, 03:17:56 AM

[edited out] .......Perhaps I never bought into the gay christmas cards angle, even though surely I have been participating in the all-seasons daily pushups angle...even though I don't really like doing pushups every day.

the pushup thing seems to be more widespread than I thought!
thanks for bringing us to 100k, then!

could I ask you to pls do it again? Tongue

It seems to me that the effectiveness of daily pushups is a kind of BTC price influencing dynamic that is consensus - based rather than a thing that any particular person is going to be able to influence on his own.

Some forum members have been publicly participating in pushups for nearly 11 months, and yeah it seems to have had been something that was happening in various parts of the bitcoin space starting around the beginning of 2024, and so OgNasty's creation of a thread on the topic had also provided an avenue for forum members to report their pushups, including that DirtyKeyboard had also created a script to daily update submitted pushup report contents into a daily pushups table, so we have ONLY recently gotten to slightly over 100 forum members who have submitted properly formatted pushup reports to have their forum name included in the pushups table.

To me, it seems quite likely that we will get back above $100k, yet surely it can be difficult to know how long it will take to get there, and surely the challenge of staying above $100k is likely not going to change in the coming months, even though surely many of us might start to feel more confident that BTC prices will not fall back below $100k if we are able to get the BTC price into the $250k to $350k territories, so long as we do not end up going to that price range too quickly and in a blow-off top kind of a way.

Yet, surely I am not going to proclaim to know exactly when we might start to presume that sub $100k is no longer going to be an issue,^**and you likely know that from my own perspective, getting the 200-WMA above $100k would likely help to inspire some confidence that the sub $100k might start to become less likely to happen, ever again.. .and surely we seem to have a decently long way to go before the 200-WMA gets above $100k since the 200-WMA is currently ONLY at about $42,653 and in the past couple of months-ish, it has ONLY been moving up somewhere in the $30 to $40 per day range.

**By the way, I will note that pushup thread owner OgNasty seems to be easily distracted by bells and whistles and bullshit ideas, since he seems to want to ruin our $100k pushup thread, and in recent weeks that lacking of foresight and focus twat, changed the name of the pushup's thread to the £100k thread - so yeah, sometimes it can be difficult to have nice things if you have thread owners who are ruining otherwise seemingly good and/or focused projects.. .which truly many of us realize that the $/BTC pair is the relevant focus in regards to how most "true bitcoiners" in the world talk about BTC prices, including the inspiration and the past practice consensus in regards to why many of the bitcoiner push up pushers have been doing our daily pushups on a world-wide basis in the past 11-ish months. So, surely it could well be the case that OgNasty's changing of the pushups thread from $ to £ might have contributed to BTC's inability to get back above $100k and to stay there on a longer-term basis. So on a personal level, I would not mind blaming OgNasty for the BTC price rather than several of us who continue to carry out our daily pushups, which are not exactly easy to keep doing on a daily basis.. and surely several pushup thread participants have gaps in their daily pushups, too.

Quote from: OgNasty on December 28, 2024, 06:54:51 PM

My hands… Something strange is happening to them. They seem frozen and unable to click the sell button. I don’t know what’s going on but it seems contagious so if you don’t want to hold onto your Bitcoin forever you may want to avoid posting next to me.

Oh gawd.

A guy who got into bitcoin in mid-2011 (going by forum registration date) thinks that there would be any temptation to meaningfully sell cornz at these current prices, beyond any regular sells that might come up according to need rather than current BTC price dynamics.