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I think that all of this problems should be somehow solved. It`s not like I attack some culture and see only problems in China. All of this behaviors - never mind if it is china, europe or states - should be punished. What should be done first? I don`t know. The best if all the things could be done the sooner the better. However what is done in china it's not acceptable for me. And the worst that they can do this with no worry about penalty. If there is nothing what could be done for this animals (from all of the world) please I want to change this f*cking planet...

Punishing natural things? Are you out of your mind?

Natural things? OMG

i have never read a natural thing from above statement
seriously where did it come from???

All flesh eating animals kill. And they don't give a shit about how you suffer before dying either.
Obtaining fur from animals is not much different from killing for food.

yes because you only need to kill animal one time in order to eat it without let it suffering
but from obtaining fur from it ohh i either dont wantbto rember this but the animal is still alive and crying while those fucking people removing their fur how fucking painful is that??

Like I said before: Animals don't give a shit about if we are suffering before they kill us or not.
Why should we care now? What's the difference?

The difference is the MONEY.
The animals are savage killed for the money: rhinos for their horns, parrots for they feathers,whales for their fat meat and now these poor bastards for the fur.
Humans kills for money, animals kills because of the instinct.
In their natural habitat the animals try to avoid humans. (see Discovery channel)
If an animal it is cornered or has cubs he will be defensive.
And if you break the most basics rules when you are in the wilderness (you have open bags with food, swim in the sharks/crocks infested waters, throw rocks in the hornet's nests etc.), they will get your ass for sure.
Even a non-meat eater like a deer / bison / moose will kick your if you disturb their matting ritual.
We live on a planet with a big bio-diversity. We are not alone.
We must protect and respect this.
We live no longer in the Ice Age, when we where forced to battle against the cave bears / lions / sabertooth. The ancient Romans build the arenas and took revenge for centuries of fear by slaughtering thousands of wild beasts: bears, tigers,lions, elephants etc.
We can't and we shouldn't follow their example: the Eco-balance is too fragile.
I am not a hypocrite: we still need eggs, feathers, meat, milk, skins (for the shoes) and even furs.
IMHO, let's try to do this less painfully and allow to die fast and with dignity these animals when we harvest them.

You are absolutely right.
Animals behavior is different than humans. It`s hard to compare but if we do so lets say that apparently we are thinking beings... And we have choice and we can decide what to do. And I must say that sometimes I think that we are wilder than this animals... Someday they will revange and then look care for your asses Grin