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Quote from: Tamaperdana on January 18, 2025, 09:30:28 AM

Because lying will definitely make someone have no trust from other people or from themselves. However, I am sure that not many members of this forum have such habits.

Many of us are learning, so I am not going to presume guys are lying.. and surely part of the reason that we discuss some of these matters in terms of hypotheticals is so that we don't necessarily need to know actual details of other guys, so we might use examples of some kind of a guy that might be largely made up but trying to help us to sort through some dilemmas that real guys might have in terms of their accumulation questions or even if they might be considering whether they might want to graduate into more of a maintenance status rather than focusing so much on BTC accumulation.
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You are right, sometimes to solve a problem or question about Bitcoin investment, sometimes making a hypothesis is the right solution. Because basically everyone has different experiences when investing in bitcoin. So we may not experience what others experience (problems when investing in Bitcoin), because we know how to avoid them. So when someone asks about this, even though we haven't experienced it, we can make a hypothesis and answer the question well. Apart from that, making a hypothesis is certainly not a lie, but rather a parable that describes the same situation, so I think this is really a very good thing to be able to solve or answer questions about bitcoin investment.

Maybe, a lie that some people might do, maybe it's just a matter of confessing about the amount of Bitcoin. After thinking again, this also has a positive side, because it can motivate us to be more consistent in continuing to accumulate our cold money in Bitcoin. So after I read all your answers, I can conclude that point of view and how to respond is very important to convert other people's arguments or assumptions into something positive for us (especially regarding the realm of bitcoin investment).

There likely is a balance in terms of attempting to be genuine with other people, whether we are talking in person or talking on the internet, and also preserving some privacy, yet sometimes in order to understand a person and to attempt to relate to a question that they have we might need to find out some details about them (or their situation), and we also might need to share some details about ourselves, and so there can be ways to reveal some details without necessarily divulging too much private information. It is not necessarily easy to balance, and sometimes people will even ask more than they should want to know and perhaps for bad reasons, yet sometimes people might have difficulties relating without some specifics...

so you might not even consider me to be a very good source for information if I don't give you some kind of an idea when I got into bitcoin, and maybe I could just say that I have been into bitcoin for several years, and that might be enough in order for you to be satisfied that I have some experience that you do not have, and so then you might be more willing to ask me some questions that you would not have asked or even to share some of your own details, so on the forum, many times we will use forum registration date as a kind of proxy to figure out when a person might have first started to get interested in bitcoin, and sometimes some other date might be more relevant and perhaps it depends upon the topic when we start to talk about how long a person might have had been in bitcoin, since some members come to the forum and they spend several years shitcoining before they start to refocus their energies on bitcoin...

so surely sometimes the journey can help to better understand another forum member's perspective or perhaps some of the questions that he might have in the event that he might have been trying to trade, but then he is wanting to become more of an investor rather than a trader, so sometimes it can take time for forum members to rethink and reconsider some of their earlier frameworks that they might even realize to have been counter productive kinds of frameworks in terms of their own desires to build their own longer term investment portfolio, to include bitcoin in that, and also to hopefully increase their future options through their fixing their ways of thinking about bitcoin and putting some kind of an investment (BTC accumulation) plan into regular practice.

We might not even be able to figure out what some forum members are trying to achieve, yet the forum does provide an avenue for many of us to bat around ideas, and most likely when push comes to shove, each of us has to figure out the extent that we may well be trying to put some of the ideas into practice, and my own personal view is that learning tends to sink in way better when we are striving towards practicing on something like a weekly basis.. and so some of the guys here might have a lot of other things going on in their lives, yet they also may figure out ways to start to employ some kinds of bitcoin-related practices on at least a weekly basis, and then the forum can provide some helpful ways for them to verify what they are doing (or what they are learning) with other forum members who might be at differing stages of a similar journey.

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Quote from: Muba20 on January 18, 2025, 06:48:05 AM

I have known about Bitcoin for a long time, I did not want to give importance to it. I thought that maybe the price of Bitcoin would go down further and I would be able to buy from the dip. But after waiting, now in 2025, I understand that maybe if I could have bought Bitcoin at that time in 2024, I would have been able to buy it for 70 thousand per Bitcoin. But as time goes by, the price of Bitcoin is increasing. Moreover, the money that I had put aside has decreased slightly due to inflation. That is why I have now been able to realize that if I buy Bitcoin and hold it, then even if the price of Bitcoin decreases, I am safe because I want to accumulate Bitcoin there for a long time. If I make a bank or any other investment, my chances of loss may increase rather than profit. But Bitcoin is now becoming more attractive than other valuable assets. If i want to keep myself in this competition, I think it is better to accumulate it without waiting any longer.

First of all you acted like a fool because dips in bitcoin market are unpredictable, many people miss their investment by waiting for the dip time. Second, you made the wrong decision because you didn't buy Bitcoin even though you had the opportunity to buy Bitcoin. A person who has money should always think that the price of Bitcoin is low in the market right now so that he is interested in buying Bitcoin immediately, this means he should never wait for a specific dip time. Waiting for the dip period means later regret for not being able to invest, as per your mentioned statement you regret now because you missed the opportunity to buy bitcoins and miss the opportunity to invest. So maybe you still have enough time, i.e. still enough opportunity to invest in Bitcoin.

And anyone who doesn't invest today can still invest later and if they are serious with their investment they will still make it or build their portfolio, so is not just about investing early rather it is how well or far you can go in your investment some people who started earlier are still backward

People who do not know about Bitcoin may not be aware of the benefits of investing in Bitcoin early. However, if someone knows about the benefits of investing early, then he will not be willing to waste a moment of time. If an investor can gain basic knowledge of holding Bitcoin, then I would say that he should hold Bitcoin as soon as possible. Maybe many people who started earlier could not hold Bitcoin for some reason or his financial condition is not like others. But if he holds Bitcoin and accumulates it regularly, then he will definitely be able to profit according to his investment. A person may be late in investing, but if he is able to gain three good insights about Bitcoin, he will certainly not want to shorten the time to accumulate Bitcoin regularly.

I totally understand your point though sometimes it is not just about knowing something that will make one to be aware of the benefits of that particular thing because I have seen a lot of people who understands or let me use the word know, they know Bitcoin but they don't still understand the benefits of holding for long term because they are just in interested in short term profit. However, the time one start holding Bitcoin doesn't really matter what matter is, how consistent, discipline, patient etc they are with their holding and the ability to manage their investment.

Sometimes newbies have to reinforce their knowledge and their commitment to bitcoin (and to bitcoin learning) by buying bitcoin every single week, and sometimes there can be options to automate the weekly buys, yet it seems to me that ongoing buying (even with relatively small amounts) will help newbies to make adjustments in their life and also to just keep biting off little chunks of knowledge that continues to build and build and build.. so that even if they might not have had spent a lot of time or money investing into bitcoin, they might become motivated to learn more and to invest more based on their ongoing chipping away at bitcoin and finding more and more angles to learn and to put into practice, and perhaps a lot of the building up started out with merely making sure that they were doing at least a little bit of bitcoin each week, whether buying a little and/or reading some article or involving themself in a thread like this or some other forum thread.