Quote from: Horsbyname on Today at 12:27:01 PM

How Sweet-Imaginations. How beautiful-stories. Stop trying to look good in the eyes of the casino-you are good enough already.

Quote from: holydarkness on January 29, 2025, 07:39:52 PM

My first reaction to this was, "what?" You're really demanding someone to address a matter during their day off?
Not trying to defend Kirito or DuckDice, but two things:

Why didn’t you react at that time, when I was asking his presence, wasn’t he supposed to be on 2 days Holidays and what other work can be important than clearing their name in the public forum?

Quote from: holydarkness on January 06, 2025, 03:58:30 PM

Yeah, I noticed that, also noticed that he's not back online since January 1. Let me try to nudge him, perhaps it's something as simple as he's still busy with the workload that was put on pause during his leave and was not able to return to the forum yet.
Please be a little bit patient, I'll reach him now.

What reaction you're referring to, if I may ask, to be clear, in case it's not covered as below?

Why don't I react to him on vacation? Explained on previous post
Why don't I react to your demand to get a reply despite his days-off? Because you didn't show the level of... IQ-related-matter and the byproduct-of-extremely-cold-weather-to-droplets-of-water-in-the-atmosphere, you just show it now.

Quote from: Horsbyname on Today at 12:27:01 PM

@Holydarkness please read it before you ask me where he changed his narrative? I noticed you have problem of forgetting things -maybe just in my case. I can prove that you forget things or maybe giving overlook to it-in my case.

I have not, having problem of forgetting things or giving an overlook. But since you've nicely done your job color-coding the change of narrative you previously propose, let's break them down:

Quote from: Horsbyname on Today at 12:27:01 PM

-1st post of directly accusing me that I sent them emails from an email address similar to mine but different with one later demanding money from them. Also kirit89 giving me tips how to blackmail them.

Quote from: Kirito89 on December 26, 2024, 01:31:21 PM

1.Here's a tip for you OP, next time when you use different emails to send blackmail requests ( I assume you thought you'd use a different email to keep your "image" clean so you can go on this bitcointalk tirade), make sure you create a completely different email. Cause if the blackmailer was a completely different, I'm pretty sure he would have no way of knowing your email address.
To give context to bitcointalk, the moment OP started this bitcointalk thread, we've been getting bombarded on Trustpilot with fake reviews, and blackmail demands, in context, OPs email lets say is something like johndoe@gmail.com, blackmailler's email address is johndoee@gmail.com, while OP initially stated its just a coincidence, its really one hell of a coincidence for the blackmailer to also know OPs email address .[/color][/size]

-2nd I never asked them for money, nor did I discuss with them to pay me 0.01 BTC. This is another completely false accusation.

Quote from: Kirito89 on December 07, 2024, 08:59:57 AM

Interesting, as can be seen in this screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/OKAlIXC you clearly state that your reviews! (multiple ones) have taken our rating from a 4.1 to a 2.7, also interesting that you're saying you will remove them for a bonus ( while here you claim your intentions are to highlight concerns about fairness), so how is this not a blackmail attempt?

There are no other users here with "similar complaints", every other bitcointalk thread with similar or exact pattern such as yours, were proven to be scamming and blackmail-ing attempts[/size]

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Kirito89,
Duckdice Support.

-3rd For the 3rd time kirito89 said: OP didn't take into account, that the blackmailer's email, and his email are unique, only separated by 1 letter (I asked him to provide proof of this accusation- yet non)

4.

Quote from: Kirito89 on December 30, 2024, 11:55:36 PM

4. OP didn't take into account, that the blackmailer's email, and his email are unique, only separated by 1 letter, so if someone was trying to take advantage of his bitcointalk thread, there would be no way of guessing his unique email, I've actually asked him in the other thread if he gives me permission (due to GDPR constraints) to disclose his email, which he conviniently ignored, so regardless of any reason provided by you, or me, or anyone else for that matter, he will simply ignore it and spam the thread so he can push his narrative.
Again I'd like to thank you for objective support on this matter!
Kirito89,
Duckdice Support.

Still can't find a shift in narrative. If any, it perfectly highlight how his mind works, chronologically --and coherently.

On first post, he wrote about blackmails, on the second post, he further explaining how the blackmail worked and what the ransom was. On third post, he clarified that the "same" emails was, that it only has one letter difference, as he graphically explained on the second part of his first post, which later further explained on the fourth post, alongside with how he based his assumption from.

Might be worth to mention the interesting part that your quote of his posts, where you marked this post as first and that post as second and that other post as fourth, is not chronological. Yet, the topic and the point conveyed did not change, it supported each other. This is what we call as "coherent".

So, maybe you want to point us out again on what part you failed to see that he sticks to his narrative that lead you to strongly and repetitively assume he kept changing his narrative?

Quote from: Horsbyname on Today at 12:27:01 PM

-4th I have frequently asked Kirito89 not to pay anyone using my name, but he twisted my words and said that the OP claimed it’s a coincidence that someone has a similar email to mine and is sending them emails asking for 0.01 BTC.

Quote from: Horsbyname on December 07, 2024, 10:07:11 AM

Once again i want to clarify that I am not behind the emails or messages demanding money or offering to remove reviews in exchange for compensation. It seems someone else, using a name similar to mine, is attempting to exploit this situation. i strongly advise you not to pay such individuals. If possible, i suggest you ask him if he can edit this post before you pay him so it can help you find out who is behind this post, (sounds funny).

as for reviews, iwant to emphasize that the post I made on bitcointalk is my first public complaint about my experience. On trustpilot, i left a single review detailing my concerns, which you’ve already responded to. Beyond these, I’ve had no involvement in any other posts or actions that might have impacted your platform’s ratings. my intention remains unchanged to share my personal experience and raise awareness about the issues i encountered with duckdice.io. i encourage you to focus on investigating my original concerns rather than conflating them with unrelated actions from other individuals.

I believe he listened to you, he did not paid the ransom. May I ask what's the relevancy of this particular post with the situation we're trying to clear out: about how Kirito keep changing his narrative?

Quote from: Horsbyname on Today at 12:27:01 PM

-5th Kirito89 asked 4 times for my permission to post those emails publically to prove that I am the blackmailer
2.

Quote from: Kirito89 on December 28, 2024, 11:05:16 AM

And 2. Do I have permission to publicly show the email address you've been in contact with us? that way I can show the blackmailer's email address, and let bitcointalk give their oppinion on it

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Kirito89,
Duckdice Support.

6th Since he kept asking for my permission to share those emails publicly-the ones from which they were receiving requests for 0.01 BTC, as well as mine-so the public could see if the emails were the same and whether I had asked him for money, he asked me about four times for permission. I eventually had to give him permission, as (Holydarkness was more interested in that part). Finally, I granted him permission 1-Jan-2024 to post them, but instead of sharing the emails, he disappeared from the forum.[...]

Because he's on vacation and get it back-to-back with personal issue? His disappearance from the forum has been explained on above post. Is it not clear yet to you? I don't mind to explain it again, really.

Quote from: Horsbyname on Today at 12:27:01 PM

[...] When he returned on 7-01-2024, he contacted user Holydarkness privately,

To tell holydarkness that he's on vacation, then to explain to holydarkness when holy demanded to know where did he went AWOL, that he had personal issue, of which holydarkness then [for the better part] left him alone to deal with the private matters.

Again, relevancies?

Quote from: Horsbyname on Today at 12:27:01 PM

[...]and then Holydarkness stated that it wasn’t possible to share those emails publicly. Like, seriously? Why did he keep asking for my permission to post them publicly if he wasn’t going to do it?[/b]
7th Here, user Holydarkness confirms as well (as he was interested in this part) that I gave permission for that.

Quote from: holydarkness on January 01, 2025, 03:21:53 PM

Kirito89, I've got a written consent through PM from OP to validate the situation of similar email account. It came with several terms, but after mulling over it the entire day, I think the best approach is to actually leave both parties in the blind, so, simplified, kindly provide me [through PM, not here publicly] the evidence of those email similarities, and I'll take it from there, if you don't mind.

Why did he kept asking about permission? I believe I covered my assumption a few posts far back. About him being triggered and lost his cool. And later on, as well as why he wasn't going to do it, he already explained: GDPR restriction.

Quote from: Horsbyname on Today at 12:27:01 PM

8th. Kirito89 disappeared from the forum on 01/01/2025 due to personal issues. During this time, Kirito89 was in touch with Holydarkness privately, while Holydarkness continued posting on my thread. [...]

The nature and the content of the conversation between holydarkness and kirito89 already explained above, and holy believe horse will not find it too difficult to find that part.

Quote from: Horsbyname on Today at 12:27:01 PM

[...]Then, on January 17th, Kirito89 returned to the forum with a completely changed story-shifting the narrative from supposedly receiving blackmailing emails to discussing Trustpilot reviews. Kirito89 completely ignored the need to post proof of the blackmail emails[/b]

Quote from: Kirito89 on January 17, 2025, 06:40:20 AM

Hi there,
Sorry for my long period of absence on this thread, due to some personal matters that I had to deal with I've been kept away more than I would have liked.

Just to get back on narrative, cause to be fair the last posts by you OP seem confusing, do you now disagree against sharing the emails that show the connection between you and the blackmailer?

For full transparency, the email connection I've had linking OP was due to the trustpilot review he has posted, the one he confirmed in this thread as being his aswell, where we can request further information and are able to see more info provided by OP, including email address he used to provide that review. In the meantime ( and likely due to my big mouth as I've stated I can link him due to the emails) his trustpilot review dissapeared, making the information unavailable.[/colo] I've currently contactd trustpilot in the hopes they restore the provided information. But in the meantime OP, can you provide a confirmation email from trustpilot that they have removed the review? ( they send an email notification if one of your reviews gets taken down) And that it wasn't you who deleted it

?

Kirito89, Duckdice Support.

He literally spelled it out on the post that you quoted and color coded. May I ask if sometimes you find obvious things hard for you to grasp? I am asking because you raised a question, and then you quote and color coded the answer to that very question.

He did not ignoring the need to post the proof. He can't because during his absence [or whenever that is] and due to his big mouth, the trustpilot review disappeared. He lose his evidence the instance it got removed, and he's currently trying to get TP to restore those reviews so he can provide the proof.

Quote from: Horsbyname on Today at 12:27:01 PM

9th After that, Kirito89 asked me to provide proof that I didn’t delete my review, but that Trustpilot did it. He requested the proof to include my email, which I provided.

Quote from: Horsbyname on January 21, 2025, 09:17:49 AM

Earlier, I posted a screenshot showing that my review was deleted by Trustpilot, not by me. Since it seems you may have overlooked it, here it is again for reference: https://imgur.com/a/cVtHQza
My conversation with Trustpilot explaining why my review was deleted: https://imgur.com/a/cMrwWYW
https://imgur.com/a/ee1jqQ5
https://imgur.com/a/sxHWK7d
https://imgur.com/a/uBUpifi

10th Once I provided him with that proof, instead of addressing the evidence he asked for, he said this.

Quote from: Kirito89 on January 22, 2025, 06:22:41 PM

An interesting fact, Trustpilot generally removes feedbacks on their own by filtering out for example, multiple feedbacks from different usernames, email adresses, originating from the same device/ip.

Another interesting fact would be that Trustpilot removed your review and additional information you provided there on the 2nd of january (the email connection I was reffering to) and you finally agreed to grant permission to disclose this on the 3d of january, after the review was deleted, even though I've asked for your permission to disclose it 7 days before that which you did not accept, quite a lot of interesting coincidences..

I'm currently still away due to personal matters, but will be back fully online on Monday.
Kirito89,
Duckdice Support
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Valid point, though it'll be too soon to draw conclusion that it is the reason why TP removed your review and to rule things out. But yeah, it will be wise to wait until they restore [if they would] the reviews or give any feedback to DuckDice to say anything about it.

Quote from: Horsbyname on Today at 12:27:01 PM

I am still waiting for Kirito89 to post the evidence, or it is time for him to apologize publicly.

And I am still waiting for a pointer on why we strayed so far from the initial point of this thread and why we discuss this point that's already explained over and over about coherence and consistency in narratives. But I guess this is a case-on-point that we can't always get what we wanted.