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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
by
DaRude
on 02/02/2025, 23:30:08 UTC
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Current US aid to UA is frozen, Trump talks about starting a trade war with EU, support for more aid to UA in US and EU is at the all time low, and you talk about scenarios where current republican US congress approves and then Trump signs and starts to send even more aid to Ukraine than Biden? Â Undecided i'm sure that'll happen, any second now, keep believing, just don't hold your breath.

Sure, no NATO, neutral status, minimal military, Russian language gets official status and RU orthodox church, protected in the new UA constitution, no LGBT, new UA government (Z looses), and Russia keeps it's land, and we can get some UN peace keepers there. Pretty sure that's all that Russia asked for from the begging, minus the new territories. Then what was the point of spilling so much blood? This will be an easy sell for Putin, but will Z be able to somehow sell it as a win to Ukrainians or will they run him out to London with pitchforks?

This is what Trump just did to it's closest ally Canada where they were clapping for that Ukrainian Nazi

Even as Canada’s prime minister announced more than $100 billion in retaliatory tariffs, he made clear that he was imposing them reluctantly.
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“We don’t want to be here,” Mr. Trudeau said in a somber televised address from Ottawa that evoked the deep bonds between the two neighbors and close trading partners. “We didn’t ask for this.”
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Mr. Trudeau addressed Americans directly, saying that the U.S. tariffs on Canadian goods would harm them, too.
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Mr. Trudeau is a lame-duck leader at a crucial moment. He has said that he will resign as prime minister and leader of the Liberal Party when his party chooses a new leader, and automatically prime minister, in March. But experts believe the tariffs that take effect on Tuesday will tip the country into a recession, putting hundreds of thousands of jobs at risk.
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But he also focused on the historically close ties between Canada and the U.S., including military cooperation in two world wars as well as the Korean War and the war in Afghanistan. “From the beaches of Normandy to the mountains of the Korean Peninsula, from the fields of Flanders to the streets of Kandahar, we have fought and died alongside you during your darkest hours,” he said.
Looks like Trump doesn't care and is just retaliating against everyone that didn't support him, or supported Biden more.

Yeah Cuba wanted to take a piece of that "financial expansionism", don't think it turned out well for them either, but Z still decided to try

Edit:
Trump is already sending signs to Ukraine

U.S. wants Ukraine to hold elections following a ceasefire, says Trump envoy
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Keith Kellogg, Trump's special envoy for Ukraine and Russia, said in an interview that Ukrainian presidential and parliamentary elections, suspended during the war with Russia, "need to be done".
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"Most democratic nations have elections in their time of war. I think it is important they do so," Kellogg said. "I think it is good for democracy. That's the beauty of a solid democracy, you have more than one person potentially running."
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His opponents are also encouraged by the barrage of criticism Mr. Trump and his aides have aimed at Mr. Zelensky.

Yep Trump is about to send so much aid to Zelenskyy he won't be able to handle it  Roll Eyes

Oh, no, he will hand over Ukraine and, now that we are at it, part of Poland and the Baltic countries, and then he will come to the European Union and tell them that they have to spend money in the US military industry.

Surely that sounds like a plan to you.

Do not get confused by the noise, Trump promised to end the war in 2 days and it is not happening, so make your own conclusions about how "accurate" he is when speaking.

RE CUBA You are an absolute ignorant.

Castro DID seek that financial expansionism. He travelled to Washington and was denied a reception on the Oval Office on the grounds that "dictators are not allowed there". Embracing the USSR was not by choice... Ruzzia was the second pick altogheter... as usual.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/17/fidel-castro-visit-washington-cuba-1959

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National Airport in Washington, April 15, 1959, from Havana.
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These charges of communism do not really touch the American peoples’ concern about Castro. They do not think he is an agent of Moscow.
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He breathed goodwill on the United States and hoped the visit would wipe away the clouds of misunderstanding about the situation in Cuba.


but....

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The State Department - which was overwhelmed by surprise when Castro swept Batista into oblivion - at first murmured sad doubts about the wisdom and propriety of inviting Castro at this time. This official timidity led some nervous editors to complain to their society.



I understand, hope dies last. But once this is all over in about 100 days or so, I'm wondering if you'll have the strength to objectively assess Ukraine's position in 2013 before cookies arrived, the proposed agreements which Ukraine refused in 2022, and what Ukraine ended up with. Or will you just parrot that all those lost Ukrainian lives were not in vain because they helped Trump to make US great again Undecided

Let's provide some context and perhaps even educate you a bit:

1944-Fulgencio Batista Cuban president is overthrown and moves to USA, Florida!
1947-Fidel Castro tried to overthrow US backed Rafael Trujillo in Dominican Republic
1948-Fidel Castro publicly criticizes US imperialism
1948-Fidel Castro joined riots in Bogota, Colombia against US aligned conservative establishment
1950-Fidel Castro Caring little for money or material goods, Castro failed to pay his bills; his furniture was repossessed and electricity cut off, distressing his wife.
1952-Fulgencio Batista leaves US, goes to Cuba and stages military coup and becomes a DICTATOR!
1952-Fulgencio Batista severs diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union and receives financial, military, and logistical support from US!
1953-Fidel Castro leads unsuccessful attack against Fulgencio Batista government
1955-Fidel Castro aligns with Che Guevara
1959 January 1-Fidel Castro overthrows Fulgencio Batista who flees Cuba and ends up in USA
1959 March-Fidel Castro signs law aimed to redistribute land from large landowners to peasants
1959 April 15-Fidel Castro travels to the United States to attend the United Nations General Assembly
1959 April 15-Fulgencio Batista US backed dictator in exile is also believed to be in US!
1959 April 17-Fidel Castro meets with US vice president Nixon, but president Eisenhower didn't want to meet with Castro because Castro had communist ties and he overthrew US backed dictator Batista

But as you say I am the ignorant one and Castro wanted financial expansionism from US in April 17 1959 Â Roll Eyes yeeeppp we all believe you! With such skills you should join some ministry of reeducation, and rewrite some history books.

You speaking of objectivity is such a joke  Grin Grin Grin And that fixation for "cookies" just do not allow you to see that Ruzzia is the worst ally (shall I say the worst puppet master) and anyone who can will try to escape.

Walltexting is stupid. Anyone can do a quick google search, but you simply did not know anything about it and still don't. Just go and speak with Cubans old enought to remember to get a glimpse of thruth.

 Â Castro did want to have economic relations or what you call "economic expansionism", AKA progressm AKA investment, but the White House simply saw him as too risky due to his past activity. THEN and only then, he looked for Ruzzia. And now Cuba... well, it is what it is.

You funny, are you not capable of understanding that it's possible (and actually smart) for small countries to play both sides? Just because Castro with already Marxist ideology went to US first, country 150km from Cuba that was providing financial support to the previous Cuban dictator, in no way implies that he was somehow against Soviet Union.