Quote from: nutildah on Today at 05:07:24 AM

Quote from: BenCodie on Today at 01:48:42 AM

It is a big loss...

...this failed investment is one of minus things from (theymos)...

...its community wouldn't be as corrupt as it is today...

I am almost certain that Satoshi Nakamoto would be appalled with the state of this forum, the members who rank high within it, and would only be pleased with its activity (which in my opinion, would be higher if it prioritized Bitcoin's core values, and is lower due to its administration)....

I am persecuting the fact that there is an elite class of decision makers...

...the decision was a stupid one...

...shows poor leadership, and a long series of bad decisions.

We get it already. You don't the forum, you don't like its administration, and you don't like its members. Pretty obvious that Bitcointalk is not for you. So, see you later. Adios, sayonara, hasta luigi.

Good grief I've never seen someone complain so much about nothing at all. He didn't even pretend to offer any kind of solution, just pure bitching.

That's not true at all. I just don't like corruption, and I don't like certain members to varying degrees and extents. Otherwise, I really enjoy the forum, the reading and discussion it provides, and just about every aspect of it outside of the politics and the cabal. The administrative decisions clearly could have been better at times, though the forum still exists and is very active. While I critique huge blunders like the forum software, and constantly critique the wild contradiction that Bitcoin is all about decentralization, openness, consensus and so on, while the forum operates in a way that is almost the opposite, that does not mean I do not like the forum as a whole.

You can snip chop and take whatever words you want to be able to muster a response like you did there all you like, it makes no difference to me. As for offering a solution, the forum obviously does not want to change the way things operate, so therefore there is no solution other than the benevolent leader to not repeat the same actions/mistake, which not only I'm sure he won't, though is not possible to replicate.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 08:50:43 AM

Quote from: BenCodie on February 12, 2025, 02:21:15 AM

Would have, could have, should have I guess.

In Dutch, we have at least 2 sayings about this, but they don't translate well. It comes down to this: in retrospect, everything is easy. If theymos would have known back then what he knows now, I'm pretty sure he would have taken a different decision. But that's just that: in hindsight.

Quote from: BenCodie on Today at 01:48:42 AM

Running a forum of this size is not an easy feet. I'm not persecuting theymos in any way - however I am persecuting the fact that there is an elite class of decision makers, when this forum should have prioritized decision making by voting, and doing its best to be as decentralized/community governed as possible - as is the bitcoin way.

You seem to think Bitcointalk is a democracy. Allow me to take this quote out of context:

Quote from: Foxpup on May 16, 2019, 06:41:35 AM

theymos as our benevolent dictator.

Quote from: BenCodie on Today at 01:48:42 AM

~, and its community wouldn't be as corrupt as it is today.
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~, which additionally put Bitcoin in the pockets of the those ranked at the top of the forum.

If you make such accusations, I'd like to see some evidence.

If everyone lived by that saying, no one would be guilty of anything. It's a cop out - but I don't care enough to continue this discussion. I am a critic, I have given my critique, my posts are out there and public for others to see forever, anyone who wants to dig, can dig.

I do not think bitcointalk is a democracy at all. It's obviously ruled and influenced by those who dominated it early, and by those who are close to theymos. I never said otherwise, though I said that it should be otherwise given that Bitcoin and its origins was not in line with this nature. As for the proof of the accusations, you know what I'm talking about, go and look into the blockchain yourself...however to just pick out a blatant one, the fees paid to mutli-signatories is a easy cherry pick. There's plenty of proof that those ranked at the top of the forum have received opportunity and reward, though I have no interest in participating in your cornering into an assignment that will take hours. I've done enough reading on this forum to be able to speak in an informed manner, I've seen enough corruption to know that corruption exists, and I can speak my voice and post so that others who are maybe more committed can dig into it, otherwise it can be left alone, if that's ultimately what nature and people want.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 11:34:44 AM

Quote from: hugeblack on Today at 10:29:51 AM

I think creating an advisory board of trusted forum members before spending any money on development would help a lot.

First point on the agenda: the salary of the forum board members Tongue

Or just post out of appreciation/to give back to the forum that has already bore a lot of fruits for those who would likely be invited to contribute to that board.

Quote from: hugeblack on Today at 10:29:51 AM

It might be worth creating a thread about what steps @theymos should take to ensure that what happened with Epochtalk doesn't happen again, or in other words, to ensure that the remaining funds are used properly.

I don't know what suggestions would be helpful, but I think creating an advisory board of trusted forum members before spending any money on development would help a lot.

That's a start if the forum wants to make a change - though honestly, I think it's too late. The way this forum is will not change, and if it does, it probably won't be done right, or will be usurped by those who are cozy with the way it is. Those who wanted to change it are probably already gone, and the ones with influence have such influence because of the way it is. All one can do at most is critique, but not expect change - nor fight for it, otherwise they'll likely lose a lot of time only to make next to no difference.