That is really distracting, since we were talking about bitcoin, and then you switched over to a shitcoin.


It might not be a BIG deal, and sure my memory might be is likely flawed in a variety of ways to the extent that I might ready, willing and able to search through old posts discussing the parameters of various bitcoin-related battles (challenges) over past times.

I probably don't even really disagree with you very much about privacy issues, including that there are needs to both be able to transact privately but also not having to fear various selective enforcement gotchas later down the road by entities wanting to track and control us..but also there are personal safety concerns with these kinds of matters too when we should be able to interact with each other directly and not worrying about how many hops back someone might see in terms of if they believe we are rich or not and if they tell their thug friend, who may well be acting on incomplete information, but still dangerous.. and maybe some additional rationale that if more folks are transacting with bitcoin, then no one can necessarily presume how many BTC that others might or might not have in various associated bitcoin addresses.


Surely one of the problems was using the term crypto, as if such term means anything... and another problem comes from Philip making large proclamations based on short-term and/or out of context data, which what else is  new?

The whole matter is complicated because surely Trump went into office with quite a few moves (grudges to try to iron out - that might even coincide with some of Elon's supposed grudges, but why should Elon have grudges?) that likely went beyond what quite a few folks were expecting, and so having repercussions in all kinds of directions that might take a while to sort out, especially considering that we are right in the midst of various kinds of blow-ups and even questions about the extent to which some of the matters might end up rising to the level of constitutional crises, and surely not everyone is surprised if there are goals to bring constitutional crises, so markets are not likely going to react in expected ways, even though we might try to make some reasonable explanations about what is going on in various markets.. that might even include that the extent to which there was a Trump pump, then the pump might not be able to continue once it had gone on for a while without some amount of pause and/or correction..including the variety of things going on and difficult to read while we (and the market)  are in the midst of them. 

Also, hopefully, none (or only few) of us are so deluded into thinking that politicians are able to control bitcoin in any kind of meaningful way - especially on a longer timeline..but surely we are likely going to have instances that are attributed to some short-term happenings.. and the BTC price is moved on the margins about some of the various short-term happenings. 

For sure, over the years, we have had bitcoiners complaining about bitcoin prices being way too manipulate to the downside (suppressed for extended periods) and/or complaining that our UPpity bitcoin price trajectory had been irreversibly damaged by some events in the space that contributed to abilities to suppress BTC prices for extended periods of time, which we know that there have been quite a few outrageous past bitcoin-related events contributing to downity BTC prices, and such outrageous events are likely not going to stop in relation to bitcoin, whether the Trump twat is contributing to them or not, and whether the BTC price ends up being able to go up or down within such macro-events that might not exactly be known in advance.. and surely a lot of markets (most likely bitcoin too) are not tending to want to go up when there are a lot of uncertainties.