Quote from: paxmao on Today at 09:14:29 AM

Quote from: Tipstar on Today at 02:04:19 AM

The reason why Ukraine is not called for negotiation along with Russia and USA is Zelensky. Zelensky is delusional, not accepting the ground reality and his only compromise is returning to pre 24th February 2022 condition. It would not be a surprise if Trump sanctions Ukraine until they have an election. There are talks of having a ceasefire for Ukraine to have an election but Zelensky is refusing it to drag the war longer.

Ukranian constitution does not allow elections in time of war. It is very clear that you would love to install a puppet but that was already taken into account when Ukraine's constitution was developed.

"Delusional"? You mean "delusional" as in Putin is "delusional" when trying to take Ukraine in three days? That kind of "delusional"?

Reality on the ground... If you ask me, I will keep this war for one more year if I were Ukraine.

The reality on the ground is that Ruzzia has spent the last year for very little gain while having to even call North Korea for troops in exchange for technical secrets. You would also need to look at the reality of the Ruzzian economy (galloping inflation, 21 interest rates, full stop in the housing market,...) Â and to the number of hits in refineries, bases and fuel depots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjnHtFqEcRQ

And 2 years later... She simply gives up on inflation...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwybD_adBIg
"monetary tightening"
"more balanced decissions about lending"
"high credit activity"
"staff shortages"
"inflation has accelerated"

My personal favourite: the longer the inflation stays high, the more time it will take to get it back under control.

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Quote from: Branko on Today at 07:53:50 AM

Quote from: paxmao on February 16, 2025, 10:50:29 PM

Why would you need to keep any agreement with Ruzzia? They are well-known for not keeping their side so...

I think you mixed up the UK and Russia.

When did the UK last breached written and agreed international commitments? ... Bah.. your answer is irrelevant, the fact is that at this point Ruzzia has built a reputation to be unreliable and that any agreement means nothing to them. With Ruzzia is about realpolitik over and over.

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Quote from: Branko on February 15, 2025, 12:21:32 PM

Russia is a hero to around 80% world population...that's a big win.
Poor paxmao delusion comes from a fact that he can't understand
that in the future world EU is irrelevant, and UK even more

Russia is a hero just like Hamas and Hitler. Of course, there are always people who sympathize with the Nazis and aggressors.
Putin's regime not only kills Ukrainians, but also oppresses its own citizens.

I understand the depth of your disappointment with the extremely unfavorable conditions that Trump is imposing on Ukraine and Europe in his peace deal.

As far as I know, there are no conditions imposed in Ukraine as of now because there is nothing agreed. When negotiating nothing is agreed until all is agreed, except when talking to Ruzzia... in that case nothing is agreed even after everything is agreed.

The fact that there is an Ukraine o which to "impose conditions" tells you a lot about how well the plan of taking Kiev in three days went.

As far as I am concernt the plan would be:

- Guarantees to Ruzzia of Ukraine not joinin NATO in exchange for giving back territory.
- Deployment of 250 thousand EU / US troops, with all the means required to take Ruzzia back to Moscow.

And then... Ukraine joining NATO.

Why would you need to keep any agreement with Ruzzia? They are well-known for not keeping their side so...

Quote from a recent article in the National Interest magazine

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The fact is that the Ukraine War is over. Trump has not come out and said this explicitly. But, in thought and deeds, the Americans under Trump have ensured that the war cannot be fought on. What’s more, the Russians have defeated Ukraine. By extension, Moscow has beaten NATO, too. At the very least, this is what Putin’s government will tell its people.

"National Interest"? That is a propaganda organ of the Republicans - apparently founded by the "Most Trustworthy Person of the Century" Richard Nixon Grin

It may or may not be right. A deal with Ruzzia means nothing, a word by Trump is pretty similar.

Quote from: BADecker on Today at 08:10:21 AM

Definitely the UK and the US. The whole Bolshevik Revolution was financed by them both. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=who+financed+the+bolsheviks%3F&ia=web

Not that the Czar was any angel. But the US and UK were and still are devils.

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BA, you are the only one here for which that is "news". My take on this... do not feed the bear again.

Thank you for stating that the US is a devil. I am sure your Chinesse handlers are very happy about that.

Well, this is embarrassing. It totally slipped my mind that I was going to let you figure this out on your own. The important point is that you did. So, congratulations.

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