Quote from: Lucius on February 20, 2025, 05:23:05 PM

Quote from: Fiatless on February 18, 2025, 07:19:25 PM

Ukraine and its European allies are powerless without the US. Trump has decided to please his friend Putin. Ukraine have no other option that to accept a US-Russia tailored deal or continue fighting. And without the support of the US, Ukraine is doomed to fail. Sadly, Ukraine is becoming the loser.

Quote from: https://www.eeas.europa.eu/delegations/united-states-america/eu-assistance-ukraine-us-dollars_en?s=253

The European Union (EU) and our 27 Member States remain united and determined in our unprecedented support for Ukraine. Since the start of the war, the EU and our Member States have made available close to $145 billion* in financial, military, humanitarian, and refugee assistance

I would not agree with you and anyone who thinks like you, because the EU (with a couple of exceptions - Hungary) strongly stands by Ukraine all the time - and if you think that $145 billion is little, then you definitely have a problem understanding how much money it is - not much less than the US has given so far (in total we are talking about $175 billion).

Donald has been a creator of chaos and a great friend of Putler for a long time, and it is no secret - what he is doing now is a double game in which he and his clowns want to get possession of valuable minerals by getting them easily with the signature of VZ, or for Russia to conquer even more territory and then share those same minerals with the US.

Ukraine has been fighting for three years and will fight for as long as necessary, and if any of these poor politicians in the EU had what they clearly don't have, then they would clearly tell the US to go home and leave Ukraine in the care of the EU and the UK. The EU and the UK together have over 500 million inhabitants and are one of the most powerful regions in the world - anyone who thinks that the US is a key player is badly mistaken.

Two crazy people can negotiate as much as they want, without the EU and Ukraine, no agreement is valid.

I honestly wished that Europe could support Ukraine to defeat Russia without the assistance of the US. King Trump had become very proud and arrogant, he deserves to be humbled. But for now Europe can't protect Ukraine without the US.

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European officials also say only a U.S. guarantee would protect European peacekeepers and deter Russia from any future attack on Ukraine.

European forces would struggle to guarantee Ukraine peace without US backing

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Volodymyr Zelenskiy didn’t mince words during an interview at Davos yesterday, telling European leaders that they won’t be able to protect Ukraine without the help of the US.

Europe Can’t Defend Ukraine Without Help From the US

If Europe could guarantee Ukraine's security, Volodymyr Zelenskyy wouldn't have considered signing this deal after the disrespect from Trump.

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The White House national security adviser, Mike Waltz, said on Friday that the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, was expected to sign a minerals agreement with the United States imminently, as part of broader negotiations to end the war with Russia.

Trump official says Zelenskyy will sign US minerals deal ‘in the very short term’