Quote from: be.open on February 27, 2025, 05:11:14 AM

Quote from: paxmao on February 26, 2025, 11:19:58 PM

Quote from: be.open on February 25, 2025, 07:58:20 PM

Quote from: paxmao on February 24, 2025, 03:52:04 PM

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Quote from: paxmao on February 22, 2025, 05:48:09 PM

That is interesting, but it has not happened

Really? The conflict in Ukraine is a hybrid proxy war between Russia and the US for influence in Europe. It seems that Europe is no longer interesting to the US.

That is not a fact, it is your interpretation. Europe has not become a protectorate of Ruzzia, but it certainly getting ready to provide Ukraine with means of self defence... so, nothing like you predicted. Â Just keep it there and wait, who knows... maybe in 100 or 200 years your descendants will claim you were right or something like that.

I saw a video of Macron and Trump meeting yesterday, where they were patting each other's knees. Macron flew to Washington to make a strong statement about Europe's support for Ukraine, and left as a fan of Trump's peace plan. Europe can't do anything alone, because it is not a subject.

Europe cannot do anything together because is not what?? You probably mean is not a single country under a dictator?

You probably have not heard about the European Union. It is not a single country, but when it comes to doing things together, eventually they do things together. Decades ago it was just a free trade zone, now has a political union and well, I guess we have to thank Putin for making Europe now have to be a military alliance.

I have seen the video too. If Macron is smiling I can already tell you that he got what he went to seek.

Macron held several meetings with Putin and phone calls at the beginin of the war, however he was not able to stop the war. Now Macron has spoken with Trump about deploying EU troops in Ukraine. Trump only cares about not spending resources in Ukraine because either he is being paid by Putin (likely) or he really does not get how important is to have Europe as ally.

Either way it does not matter, if there are European troops in Ukraine, the development of the country and the business opportunities that come with it should be good enough to create the European army. Ukraine will become a military production world class power and most likely Europe will launch an enhanced nuclear weapons programme - many countries were wondering what to do with all that Plutonium from the nuclear reactors anyway.

Because it is not subjective. Europe is very heterogeneous and consists of many countries. In some of these countries, during the conflict in Ukraine, there was a "rightward turn", and forces more oriented towards nationalism came to power. And this makes it difficult to develop a unified position in the European Parliament, because all important decisions in Europe must be taken unanimously. In terms of developing a unified foreign policy, Europe is paralyzed.

Europe always looks paralised, and it never is. It simply advances thorugh a complex process of multilateral negotiations, which is slow, but not halted.

If you are talking about Orban, well, he is the laughing Clown of Europe. The German far right is pretty much isolated, despite good results in elections.

You may have observed that the moment the far right gets to government, they start taking good distance with Putin. People in Europe can simply tell that is not a good idea to have a strong Ruzzia particularly if it is too close.

Here, have some paralysis:

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-leaders-weigh-bypassing-spending-restraints-for-massive-defense-package/

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Germany weighs massive defense spending deal before far right can block it

https://vreme.com/en/svet/fon-der-lajen-evropa-mora-hitno-da-se-naoruza/

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At a summit on Ukraine in London, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said the European Commission would propose a weapons plan because "we really need to seriously step up our efforts."

We urgently need to rearm Europe, said today the president of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, one of the first European officials to express her reaction after the end of the summit on Ukraine in London.

Now, if that happens, would you say that (a) weapons will be kept in depots in Europe or (b) they will be sent where they are needed (yes, that is Ukraine).