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I read all you said and I must commend you for your wonderful write up, Bitcoin is a very investment, i really don't know why some people don't like Bitcoin investment maybe because Bitcoin is volatile in nature but see nothing wrong with that as long as Bitcoin keeps growing, my regret is not mining Bitcoin and also not starting Bitcoin investment when the price was very small, I have friends who started accumulating and holding Bitcoin when it was not up to $500 and some are still holding till date why some have sold there own and has made huge amount of money that has changed there life and they can never be poor again, but I'm happy I didn't wait till today, one of them introduced me to this forum and I have been that a lot of people here and accumulating and holding Bitcoin you guys should keep it up Bitcoin has a great future.

First: As Free Market Capitalist mentioned, you do not need to quote my whole post in order to respond to it.

Second: Even if you have regrets about not entering into mining or not investing into bitcoin at earlier times, that seems meaningless, since we cannot turn back the clock.. and so in that regard, we have to consider what we are going to do from today and here into the future rather than regretting about what we had not done in prior times that are not coming back. Sure, no problem attempting to learn from the past, but more importantly is figuring what to do from today, and hopefully acting upon what we had learned rather than just thinking about it. Of course, MSTR and Saylor may also inspire individuals, even though some of MSTR and Saylor's strategies might have to be modified in the event that individuals are wanting to follow some variation of what MSTR has been doing.

Third: comparing yourself to your friends or to what others are doing or have done also seems quite a bit less meaningful as contrasted with figuring out what your own plan might be and how to act upon such plan, if you were to have one, and of course, in this thread, we are talking about MSTR, so it may be better to try to focus on that (even though I know that I have also been guilty of some divergence from the main topic of this thread)..

ok talking about MSTR is Michael Saylor Bitcoin accumulation really part of what is making Bitcoin grow, because to me I see by buy using those huge amount of money to accumulate Bitcoin and posting it is a way to make bitcoin more valuable, and if people like him who are using huge amount of money to amount Bitcoin sell of all there Bitcoin and stop accumulating and holding them will it result to Bitcoin fall, we where talking about this just today and some set of people said if people like Michael Saylor and others should stop investing in Bitcoin that Bitcoin will lose it value what is your take on that.

I doubt that there is any kind of simple answer since there are all kinds of individuals, entities and governments buying bitcoin, besides what Saylor/MSTR is doing.

Sure, folks can get caught up on attempts at simple explanations, yet BTC price moves are based on aggregated behaviors across a lot of exchanges around the world, and including OTC buying/selling of bitcoin and other ways that folks might buy or sell their BTC. BTC spot ETFs have also provided a lot of new avenues for folks to get BTC price exposure, and those BTC spot ETF owners need to buy bitcoin to back up the shares or to run risk of not having the BTC that they claim to have if the BTC prices shoot up.. which could cause them a lot of financial issues if they don't have the BTC they claim to have.

Saylor/MSTR is a pretty good marketer of bitcoin, and yeah they could stop marketing bitcoin, and there are others who are pretty good marketers of bitcoin, and they could stop as well. Bitcoin does not have any official marketing team, yet a lot of folks are marketing bitcoin and not really getting specifically paid to market bitcoin, especially the more that they learn about it, the more they may well talk positively about bitcoin.

Since you are new to this forum, hopefully you are not getting overly caught up upon simple explanations regarding bitcoin's price dynamics, but instead figuring out your own allocation to bitcoin and figuring out to establish a decently good sized stake in bitcoin, since it can take a pretty long ass time to build a decently good bitcoin stake if you have not already been doing it for a while or if you have not already front loaded your bitcoin investment, and even if you are just getting into bitcoin, it is likely a good idea to plan to either build your investment for 4-10 years or longer and/or to hold your bitcoin investment for 4-10 years or longer, even if you had been able to frontload or to lump sum into bitcoin rather than investing over a longer period of time....

Many times it is practical to invest into bitcoin over a long period of time, since many times many of us are not professional investors with stacks of extra money that we can just move into bitcoin in a short period of time...even though there can be a lot of advantages in regards to front-load investing into bitcoin for folks who have such option. I think with MSTR, when they started investing into bitcoin, the invested more than 75% of all their cash-reserves into bitcoin, and perhaps they had considered that they were front loading into bitcoin, yet they continued to invest into bitcoin on a fairly regular basis with decently large chunks of any cashflow that they could get, but then to research into various ways to create financial instruments to generate value to be able to increase their ongoing investment into bitcoin., which they have surely found (and perhaps even created) a unique kind of a niche way of investing into bitcoin, which surely their model is interesting because of the various copy cats that may or may not be able to execute the model as well as MSTR/Saylor.

thank you so much for your explanation i was expecting more people to also say something about this.