Quote from: LGD2Business on Today at 12:59:17 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 01:55:37 AM

You seem to be the arrogant one, LGD2Business.

This thread is not even about trading.
Specifically we are here talking about various BTC accumulation strategies, and sure maybe you are distracted by the title of "buying the dip," but still we have an investment focus in this thread.

Another thing.. sure you may well be correct that it is safer to trade bitcoin than shitcoins, yet it is hardly even a great topic, even if it were relevant to this thread - especially since whatever trading approaches that anyone chooses to employ has a lot of potential variability, to the extent that trading is not devolving into variations of degenerate gambling in the first place.

Looking at your forum registration date, yeah you have been registered on the forum for 10 years, so yeah, it is nice to interact with members who have experience, yet you still might be grappling with how investing into bitcoin differs from trading it, to the extent that you might want to try to stay topical in terms of this particular thread.. and yeah, there is nothing wrong with having differing ideas, yet it is going to be quite irritating if you are going to want to talk about trading, when the ways that you have been talking about bitcoin so far seems to be deviating from the focus of this thread.

If you have followed the topic and looked at the message where the main discussion started, you must have noticed that a few people are deliberately rephrasing words differently to steer the issue into an off-topic debate. New users trying to manipulate the topic in this way should not be allowed.
When you look at the entire message, you can see that when I mentioned trading Bitcoin, I was referring to buying from the dip. I wasn't talking about trading in the sense of constantly buying and selling. Therefore, in the context of the topic my message was a normal on-topic discussion. However, since these people are spammers who don't even understand what they read, they cut half of a sentence and started attacking based on that.

They are cutting only one sentence from my message and distorting it from its original meaning to manipulate the situation. I wonder what the real purpose is of those who create an uproar as if you said something you never actually said and then attack based on that. I guess they have no other concern than creating fake debates to fill their message quotas. If they earn a few merits in the process, it becomes even more profitable for them. I don't even think they have invested in Bitcoin at all.

Fair enough if you had not been intending to talk about trading.

I am not claiming to be able to identify the difference between genuine posters and those who might be merely making up facts and/or just spinning superficial ideas.

Inevitably in a thread like this there is going to be a lot of repetition, and it can sometimes take time for several of the newer members to find their groove in the thread and/or in the topic of bitcoin, including that once we have gained some experience, then we will have more likelihood to identify areas in which we agree and disagree with other members, and also sometimes even recognizing that we need to customize some of the general ideas to our own application in regards to our own particulars.

We might not even realize that we fucked up in some kind of way until it is too late to fix our mistakes - which brings me back to the idea that if we are working on applying the various ideas about investing into bitcoin and strengthening our cashflow management practices, it may well take a whole cycle or more before we are really starting to get into a groove of having had experienced both bear and bull periods, even though surely even exact historical bitcoin price patterns are not guaranteed to repeat.

Even on the topic of shitcoining and trading, there may be guys who choose to engage in those practices, and there surely are other threads in which they can bat around those kinds of ideas, and even in this thread we might end up touching upon those kinds of topics because some members continue to grapple with figuring out the difference, or even figuring out for themselves if there might be some smaller level of exposure and/or experimentation that they might be able to do with with shitcoining and/or trading and to still keep themselves focused on bitcoin investing.. and surely I have frequently suggested to not allow any more than 10% of the size of the bitcoin investment to go into trading and/or shitcoining, yet each person has to figure out those kinds of boundaries for themselves...and of course, they are the ones who have to live with the consequences of their own choices, including if they might end up making mistakes.. and if the mistakes are not too large, then they can also learn to fight another day as compared with some folks who make mistakes that are so large that they are not able to completely recover from the level of their mistakes.

Quote from: Derekfunds on Today at 01:36:39 PM

Quote from: Popkon6 on March 01, 2025, 11:05:10 PM

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I disagree with you, investing is not easy and if it was or if it is almost/everybody would have ventured into it, investing is not easy because one have to think through the advantage and disadvantage of it before one can venture into it and some people in the process of thinking they lose interest because they might think out some scenarios that may be difficult for they scale through because anything about investment, there is always a risk so is not easy and sustaining and investment for a long term is not easy too even though you know the strategy because there are stage one will reach, one will be so confused though sustaining an investment will be or. An be easy if you have the necessary things such as your discretionary, emergency fund and back up fund and most importantly you need to be discipline, determined and know how to manage your investment and sometimes even with all these some people still find out hard to sustain there investment you why? Because they are not disciplined and determined.

I doubt that investing is as difficult as you seem to be making it out to be. Most people already have the basis skills to invest, which is that they instinctively figure ways to make sure that they are mostly spending less than they make and that they have a little bit of a cash cushion. Sure some people are better at keeping a cash cushion than others, yet most people know the basic skills of making sure that they don't run out of money.

With investing into bitcoin, it becomes important to attempt to maintain a larger cash cushion at all times so that there is never any need to tap into the bitcoin investment at a time that is not completely of the investor's choosing. So it can become more complicated when the cashflows are erratic with the income being low and/or the expenses being high, yet these are not greatly difficult kinds of skills and practices to learn, including sometimes learning self-discipline, emotional control and delayed gratification - which are also frequently abilities that people already have, they just need to put them into practice in the event that they are not accustomed to doing that.