Quote from: tvbcof on May 02, 2014, 03:43:55 AM

Ya, so I was just gazing into my crystal ball, and I thought I'd let all my new-found friends from this thread know how things will turn out in Bundy-land.

An anonymous wealthy donor shows up and pays Bundy's past fees. Sharp-eyed viewers might notice that Bundy has not done anything terribly wrong, nor have any of his family. He's been an annoying pain-in-the-ass but there is no law against that.

Until evidence to the contrary, I believe Bundy is sincerely fighting for a local sovereignty. I've listened to some of his speeches and interviews.

I do believe you are correct (I've seen evidence that they did!) that the elite instigate, infiltrate, or co-opt most large scale movements, e.g. Martin Luther King, Black Panthers, etc..

For you to assume Bundy is complicit means you've basically decided there is never a solution that is based on political organization. Hopefully you know voting at the state and federal scope is nonsense.

Quote from: tvbcof on May 02, 2014, 03:43:55 AM

He's also been the gift that keeps on giving to us on the left by telling tall tails that are easily dismissed, making absurd arguments which are trivial to shoot down,

Sorry you've lost that debate of the facts upthread.

Quote from: tvbcof on May 02, 2014, 03:43:55 AM

making out-of-the-blue and over-the-top racial comments which just happened to be timed to royally screw his political supporters, etc and just happened to be caught by a reporter who happened to be around. That might make a certain small segment of analysts say 'hmmm...', but not a lot.

The more politically incorrect arguments the better, it means this isn't a MSM movement, but rather an honest ideological one.

In that Oathkeeper Youtube you shared, the 4 guys agreed the camp was split on the racism issue, and that there is no racism there and even one of the Oathkeepers is obviously a light skinned black man and the other looks Hispanic.

I certainly wouldn't try to please the entire country if I was standing up for my local sovereignty. Either I can defend my local rights or I can't. Don't care what the opinion of the country is vis-à-vis the MSM.

Quote from: tvbcof on May 02, 2014, 03:43:55 AM

In short, Bundy will be leasing land from the BLM for his somewhat reduced herd next year and paying the fees like all the rest of the Ranchers. His problem which have been building for 20+ years will be resolved and behind him.

Let's see what happens. I get the impression that Bundy family is ready to die for anything less than BLM capitulation.

You seem to be delusional, because Bundy has so stated his resolve.

Quote from: tvbcof on May 02, 2014, 03:43:55 AM

There are a contingent of people who really are 'milita' and at least in their own minds 'patriots'. They were stirred by the cause, packed up their guns, and drove on out to NV. Some of them were there for the showdown with the BLM. They are now in a shit-load of trouble and they've got no way out. Most of them have already packed up and gone home, but they will be quietly picked up by the cops in the coming months.

You are going to be shocked and learn something about real men, versus Communist pussies like yourself.

This is war now. The participants can't back down any more, and have to wage a wider and wider fight. I assume they know this. They know that backing down means they will be chewed up over time. The Oath Keepers will remain united and if the cops try to pick up one of them, all them will gang together to citizen arrest the cops for illegal arrest.

You have just seen the start of the American civil war. And this won't be like asleep sheep revolutionaries Ukraine, because Oathkeepers are kick-ass serious motherfuckers. They are armed to the hilt and they have been waiting for this opportunity. They are locked and loaded and ready for this civil war. They wish to die for this, if the alternative is defeat.

Bottom line is Oathkeepers have long been prepared to wage this war, and the Ukraine revolutionaries were unprepared because they were incited not by long-term reason but rather propaganda. Thus Ukraine is no threat to the global elite. But the Oathkeepers are massive threat to the global elite. Unfortunately our friend Armstrong is still in denial about this.

Quote from: tvbcof on May 02, 2014, 03:43:55 AM

There are a contingent of individuals who worked formally worked on this psyop. They will vanish into the ether that they came out of it.

The Oathkeepers (per the Youtube you shared upthread) already identified some of these infiltrators and they will continue to be diligent and weed them out (or weed themselves out). Bundy needs to show he is wising up, else he will lose the legitimate militia support.

Quote from: tvbcof on May 02, 2014, 03:43:55 AM

Then there are the general public. They'll be left with a general discomfort about the 2nd amendment and the dangers of certain 'extreme' groups. The label 'extremist' will be more effective when pinned on the chest of future adversaries, and laws which protect 'the people' from various dangers (and guns in particular) will be easier to pass.

The asleep sheep are useless fodder any way. They don't matter.

For as long as you are worried into a tizzy about those who can't possibly be involved in any real change, then you remain a useless drivel queen.