Quote from: MusaPk on March 08, 2025, 05:52:47 PM

Quote from: cxtreenal on March 04, 2025, 06:21:07 PM

Waiting for a drop to buy Bitcoin prevents investors from making more profits. What we can learn from the past Bitcoin equation is that its price will be higher than expected. High profits and investment go hand in hand, so you should invest in Bitcoin from today, with a time horizon of ten years rather than five years. Sometimes it is better to focus on holding Bitcoin than to make a profit. In the hope of making more profits in the future.

It's best for those who are in there twenties and thirties to invest in Bitcoin for 10 years or even more. Those who are new to Bitcoins have to start from somewhere and they should immediately start investing at whatever current price is. With time they can go bullish in case they find extra cash from any other source.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 07, 2025, 08:02:50 PM

Well it is true that there tends to be a bit of evidence that a person is prioritizing his bitcoin investment if he regularly invests whenever he gets the money, such as on a weekly basis, and so there could be a bit of lessening of the priority if the guy believes that he is going to hold that extra money on the side and wait for a dip (a dip that may or may not come).

Sure there are ways to split up the amount of money that a person has available and to invest right away with some of the value and to hold the other part of the value for buying on dips that may or may not end up happening... yet , surely a presumption of having a limited budget is that it may well not be very practical for the person to be holding back value, since splitting it up does not really rise to a very high level.. or at least not necessarily a high enough level to justify splitting the amount into two parts. So part of the advantage of mixing strategies is that any person can sometimes find himself in a situation in which he usually does ONLY DCA, but some temporary circumstances might justify that he mixes up the strategies and perhaps throws some funds into the buying on dip category or just lump summing based on the quantity of funds being available help to justify that buying right away and with a lump sum might be a good way of deploying such funds (or a part of such funds)..

The issue with DIP is that we don't know where the bottom is. Take example of Bitcoin these days, Bitcoin price is going down but we are not sure whether current price of 85k is the bottom or price will go further down from here.
If you are following DCA strategy then you find 'buy the dip' on your way. Because if you are accumulating Bitcoin in DCA manner for 5 or more years then during this duration you will find occasions when price of Bitcoin is down. Waiting and keeping cash ready to buy the dip is not a good idea, if you have cash available at the dip then that's another thing. If I have 100$ available today for Bitcoin then it's best to invest all in Bitcoin rather then invest 50$ right now and spare 50$ for the dip. The dip may come after several weeks or months of wait.

The buying on the dip could be very individualized, yet you are correct with an implication that it might not be worth waiting.

Let's use the example that on average, a guy knows that he has $100 coming to him every single week that he is able to dedicate towards buying bitcoin. He really is not sure if he wants to DCA every single time, so he decides that he is going to save some of that money for buying on the dip, yet at the same time, he decides that no matter what, he is going to buy $50 every single week, so in the following 20 weeks, he has various buys that range between $50 and $100, and so whatever he saves he has building up in a "buy on the dip fund."

His buy on the dip fund might start out with some preloaded money or maybe if he buys $75 on the first week, then he has $25 for buying on the week, and maybe if the next 10 weeks, he buys $75 each week, then after 10 weeks, his buy on the dip amount has gotten up to $250. Sure, he could have various thresholds that might trigger his buys, for example that he will use 25% of his dip buying fund ever time the BTC price drops at least 8% from the last time that he bought or maybe 8% from some plateau price that he determines to be the jumping off price in which to measure what is a meaningful dip, so then he might figure that he could buy several times, if the BTC price dips 8% (that's one buy), then 16% (that's 2 buys) then 24% (that's three buys) and the 32% (that's 4 buys).. and sure, he can determine the numbers however, he wants, and if it takes one or three weeks for the BTC price to drop, then his regular BTC buys might affect whether he buys with his regular DCA funds and/or whether he puts more into his buying on the dip funds during the weeks that the BTC price happens to already be dipping.

None of us can decide the exact buy the dip parameters for another person or even how much a person might allow his buy on the dip fund grow. Any guy could create parameters that he does not let his buy on the dip fund grow to any larger than $500, or some other amount that he believes might be causing him too many opportunity costs... and I am not even saying that any newbie needs to have any kind of buying on the dip funds, yet some newbies will feel better to both maintain a buy on the dip funds, yet at the same time, to recognize and appreciate that there is a certain amount of value for bitcoin newbies to be dedicating a certain amount of their funds towards buying bitcoin all of the time, no matter the bitcoin price, and perhaps employing such buying no matter what practices for at least a whole bitcoin cycle and perhaps even a cycle and a half or more.

There is value in terms of not overthinking matters, and just putting a system in place, yet there is also some value in regards to trying to be creative in tailorizing systems that help newbies to feel better about what they are doing and perhaps build some gamification that makes the whole thing fun, even while the whole thing is also helping the person to be building self-sovereign kinds of wealth that he might not have had otherwise had opportunties to build... especially since he can invest very small amounts such as $10 per week or he can invest larger amounts, such as $100, $500 or more, or he can also make his weekly amounts flexible in a way that he is continuously buying bitcoin, yet not getting himself into trouble financially based on his taking money from places that he might otherwise need for his expenses and/or other financial obligations that he might have.. .which also might fall in the category of entertainment and keeping others happy too (whether family or some other kinds of business and/or social arrangements that a guy may well need to maintain).

Quote from: Wakate on March 08, 2025, 06:41:11 PM

Quote from: Grace333 on March 07, 2025, 09:55:13 PM

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Bitcoin investment is very profitable that's why we have been seeing more investors jumping on the market immediately they starts understanding how everything works. It is never too late too late to invest in the market since their are many ways to make money from the market especially when you choose to hold and trade at the same time. There are traders that are making real money from the crypto market because of their ideas and understanding about the market. Bitcoin trading and investment have opened so many people's eyes to seeing the gold mine in Bitcoin investment and trading.

I doubt that there are good ideas and many ways to make money when you start to talk about trading as a way to make money.

When you have one of the best, if not the best, of investments that are available, then why would you be fucking around trying to trade it? That makes hardly any sense.

You have been registered on the forum for nearly 4 years. Have you been trading during that time? fucking around with shitcoins too?

I would suggest to be staying focused on bitcoin, and stop trying to trade it at least until you have built up your portfolio, and even if you build up a portfolio, don't be trying to trade or to fuck around with shitcoins with any more than 10% of the size of your bitcoin holdings.. and only that if you cannot control your urges to gamble or to be involved in shitcoins. Otherwise it is likely way better to just stay focused on bitcoin and stop promoting dumb ideas like trading, as if normal people are wanting to gamble with their investments, such as money they are putting into bitcoin.

One way to nearly guarantee to lose money and to fuck up an otherwise good investment (which is bitcoin) is to get involved in trading and/or shitcoins.