Quote from: CryptoBuds on Today at 09:21:17 AM

Quote from: Argoo on March 17, 2025, 09:00:18 AM

In fact, you confirm my words that there were and are no NATO troops on the territory of Ukraine. If regular NATO troops are not waging a war with Russia on the territory of Ukraine, then on what basis do you think that this is a war between NATO and Russia?
There are two possible scenarios here: the war between NATO and Russia is not taking place on the territory of Ukraine, or the war is not being waged by military actions, but is being waged economically, technologically, or some other way. Please clarify your position.

By now, everything has become very clear but you still don't want to admit that Ukraine is just a pawn on the NATO chessboard. I think no matter what I say, our argument will never end.

Quote from: Argoo on March 17, 2025, 09:00:18 AM

The possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine as peacekeeping forces is currently being discussed in Europe. Great Britain is ready to send at least 10,000 of its troops to Ukraine, and France, Germany, and a number of other countries are also ready to introduce their troops, placing them in Kyiv, Lvov, and Odessa. In the event of a ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine, these forces should deter Russia from a new invasion.

https://www.ukr.net/ru/news/details/politics/110180072.html

https://glavred.info/war/skolko-mirotvorcev-strany-soyuzniki-napravyat-v-ukrainu-starmer-nazval-cifry-10647746.html

Europe? They were not even invited and attended the peace talks organized between Russia and the United States. So such news just makes the story more interesting but leads nowhere, they can't do anything without asking for permission and getting permission from the US.

I think there will be no more war between Russia and Ukraine in the future when the peace deal between Trump and Putin is announced and the conflict ends. Because both Russia and the United States have achieved what they wanted.

After all, small countries are just pawns on the chessboard of big countries. Small countries can hardly decide their own destiny.

You see, you have no worthy arguments to prove that the current war in Ukraine is a NATO war against Russia. This myth was invented in the Kremlin to somehow explain Russia's heavy defeat by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the battlefield.

However, global changes are currently taking place in NATO due to the fact that Trump is moving away from the principles of NATO's functioning and even threatening to leave this alliance. In this regard, the role of NATO has begun to diminish and in its place another defensive military alliance may emerge, led by European countries, where Ukraine will play a significant role with its technological solutions in the field of unmanned systems, missile programs, invaluable military experience and a significant army.

What Trump and Putin decide between themselves without European countries and Ukraine will have no consequences for them and they have already directly stated this. Trump is sharply moving away from democratic values and, following Putin, wants to make an empire out of the United States. He will not succeed, so in the near future we may see that due to the influence of external factors, he may leave the presidential chair.