Part of the reason that you remain a low coiner, even after 12 years in bitcoin is because you have these inadequate kinds of ideas and strategies. You also do not prioritize the building up a bitcoin stash prior to selling your bitcoin, so you have a trading mentality.

This thread is emphasizing the accumulation of BTC, and sure the title of the thread refers to buying the dip, yet many of us have already come to conclude that DCA is likely a better approach towards investing rather than buying the dip, even though sure, there is nothing wrong with supplementing a buy the dip strategy, as long as there are realizations that there are trade offs, since the dips might not end up happening.

Can you at least recognize that the DCA portion is the most important way to accumulate bitcoin for long term investors if you are getting out of your trading mentality for a moment?

Think about your proposed plan too.  You want to suggest that guys (perhaps even newbies, since we have a lot of newbies in this thread) to hold back value 10x their DCA amount (which is 2.5 months of their DCA amount) and also 40x their DCA amount (which is 4/5th of a year of their DCA amount), which really presumes that guys have that much money that they are able to keep in cash.

You likely suffer from an error of having way too much set aside in cash, and you are wanting other guys including newbies to engage in such practices too, as if they were preferable practices, like you proclaimed.  That is surely not correct, even if you believe that it is a good idea for you, it truly would be a problematic approach for a lot of the way newer BTC investors in who participate in this thread.

Perhaps after a year investing into BTC if many of the newer investors have also been able to establish their emergency fund and other forms of back up funds, then maybe they can start to hold some of their cash for buying on the dip, yet it still seems to me that buying on the dip is inferior to regular DCA, at least for several years of accumulating BTC.. even though surely guys have to figure out these matters for themselves, and your suggestion to hold back around 50x of their DCA amount for various buying on dips seems quite ludicrous and out of touch with both what newbies might want to do, including that they are likely trying to get exposure to bitcoin rather than spending a bunch of time building up cash reserves.. which is probably even another problem that you have.

I have personally built up quite a bit of cash reserves, but I have been investing int bitcoin for 11 years, and I had been investing in various traditional investments for 20 years prior to getting into bitcoin.. but newbies are not going to have luxuries of having abilities to build up so much cash to hold back for buying dips... if they did that, they would not have any money left to actually invest into bitcoin.

Another thing is that many times the bitcoin versus the cash exposure would likely be quite heavily allocated to bitcoin rather than to cash, yet the various other investments could make some difference and the amount of time that a person is building up their bitcoin investment may also make a difference, yet the cash on hand, would largely end up being for emergency funds and perhaps other various forms of back up funds that might not even be allocated for buying bitcoin dips, so there would be some luxury to have various strong cashflow management already established, and to have emergency funds and other back up funds established, and then on top of all of that to have 50x the DCA amount (like amounting to a years worth of their DCA amount allocate towards buying various dips that might not happen).. The more I think about your proposal, the more retarded and inapplicable it seems to the situation to most newbies, and it probably is not even a good approach for yourself in terms of your continuing to stay a low coiner after more tha 12 years in bitcoin.

I am also not into unrealistic dips.. since we may well never dip to either $73k (your first proposed dip buying point) or to $59k (your more extensive proposed dip buying point), and we were already at those prices at various points in 2021 and 2024.. of course, 2022 and 2023 we were much below those price points, yet there is no reason to even presume that there is a need to go back there, even if it could end up happening, we should not be fucking up our bitcoin buys by holding back a bunch of value for potentially buying dips that might not happen, rather than buying regularly, consistently, persistently and ongoingly without preoccupying ourselves with price, especially if we are into our first whole bitcoin cycle or even if we are within our first cycle and a half (6-years-ish)...  

Surely, on my own personal level, I have already put into place buy orders on the way down which are every $3k and then every $2,500, then every $2k and then every $1,500 and then every $1k down to $27k, yet I have had my bitcoin holdings growing for more than 11 years...  Guys here are mostly not in such a situation and they are still in various stages of their accumulation stage, and they might not have had even been able to front load their bitcoin investment in any kind of way.  I doubt that newbie bitcoiners are really in a place to be holding back such quantities of money for buying dips, even though surely I would not mind guys having 5-10 buy orders that might each be around 2x or their normal DCA amount.. but still that might also be quite presumptive of down prices, and not sufficiently focused on ongoing buying of bitcoin persistently and perhaps even aggressively, which is likely what bitcoin an overwhelming majority of newbies need to be focusing their efforts on doing in their first cycle or cycle and a half or so.


We could consider that we are competing against different versions of ourselves in order to make ourselves a better self with bitcoin than what we would have had been without bitcoin.


You are not grappling with the point that I made.

you can use whatever amount that you like, yet your budget is not magically whatever you say that it is.

if you have $100 per week that you are choosing to invest into bitcoin, yet you also are supposedly saving some money in order to buy the dip, you have to have had  purposefully chosen to hold that extra  money on the side rather than buying bitcoin right away.  You cannot just make up facts and act as if there are not any trade offs.. as if the money to buy the dip suddenly appears.  The money to buy the dip has to come from somewhere, and if you had been buying bitcoin every week with all of your budget, you are not going to suddenly have more money if you already spent it.

Otherwise if you are choosing to prioritize buying the dip, then you are not going to be buying as much with your DCA, and so if the dip does not happen, then you have to be willing to accept that you had money that you failed/refused to buy when you could have had done so.


Why don't you give me some actual numbers then, instead of acting like money all of a sudden comes out of thin air when there is a dip.

Give some numbers instead of just trying to act as if you have figured out the perfect solution without any trade-offs, when you have not.  There are always going to be trade offs, and you have the discretion to completely decide the trade offs.. .and to live with the consequences.


There are 52 weeks in a year, and so generally there are 4.3 weeks per month.  In other words there are 4 weeks out of every year that have 5 weeks rather than 4 weeks, that is if we might be sticking to a particular day of the year, and yeah, so the weeks overlap the months since every month does not have 28 days.


I was merely referring to your describing that you were going to all of a sudden have money to buy the dips.  If you are not completely spending your whole budget to buy bitcoin every week, then you would be saving some money for dips, yet the price may or may not end up dipping from whatever point that you are expecting it to dip.


If we have a fairly non-aggressive approach, then we can just set our weekly buy amounts and forget it.   We might even consider some of the passive approaches to investing into bitcoin or even the spaced out (once a month) ways of investing into bitcoin or guys waiting for dips that might not happen, we could likely consider those to be more whimpy variations of investing into bitcoin.  Yet the more aggressive that we are choosing to be in our bitcoin investment in terms of regularity and in terms of using decently high portions of our discretionary income for bitcoin investing, then we have to end up being more organized and to have stronger cashflow management practices, and including that perhaps sometimes our back up funds will rescue us if we end up making calculation mistakes or perhaps overdoing our investment on short-time bases.  If we have strong cashflow management systems and back up funds, we can also end up having resources to rescue ourselves from our own mistakes. when we are pushing our level of aggressiveness as much as we think that we are able to do without hopefully overdoing it... .