Quote from: helmet on May 04, 2014, 05:30:37 PM

Quote from: TheMightyX on April 16, 2014, 06:09:27 PM

This is a slightly nearsighted sentiment.
Those who invested their funds at 60, 80 or even 100 satoshi could not be expected to donate those funds as just to donate $100 to the developers it would cost them $1000-$2000.

I have been pretty vocal several times about what I felt were key issues and roadblocks in kittehs path.
I offered to help strategize a plan of action but was not taken up on the offer. That in itself was disappointing as I believe that there were many forms of action we could have taken. Mergemining was not one of them.

We all have lives to live and other responsibilities so it would be selfish of us to hold it against the team for wanting to move on with their lives and careers. We can't necessarily expect someone to waste their time on something solely for our benefit. As much as we may not like this move, we all need to do whats right for ourselves first.

And who are you? You seem to not have any involvement in kitteh. I know I have never seen you around, and I have been around since before the relaunch...........

Hello Helmet,
I've not been involved with the previous management of kittehcoin.
But if you would like to discuss my involvement I would be happy to chat with you on IRC.

Quote from: adamg on May 04, 2014, 06:03:50 PM

Quote from: TheMightyX on May 03, 2014, 08:31:09 AM

The new focus of Kittehcoin will be Sustainability, Marketability and Charitability.
Ok I made that last word up. But it sounded nice, right?

No Kitteh is not dead, its only used up 1 of its 9 lives (2 if you count previous dev takeover).
Our Kitteh still has a long life to live and will have learned many lessons along the way.

I don't know how you can decide on a new focus without having discussed it with the community or myself (I work on the marketing), personally I've just pulled 5.5 btc buy order for kittehcoin as your approach is not very involving - do you have any credibility/experience to take this coin forward?

I'm sorry if you feel I have stepped on your toes. There has been a slight lack of communication as Dano has been quite busy with work and other commitments lately.
As per the discussions I have had with Dano, the team was pretty sparse other than yourself and several others and I assumed he had spoken with them.
There was really only several people who had volunteered their time to revive kittehcoin and you were one of the only key ones, hence me contacting you prior.
I felt it was more important to make a statement to the community that might help build confidence, rather than wait to hear back from all of the volunteers. So I am sorry if my stating of a focus for kittehcoin seems like an overreach. I should reiterate that that would be my focus of involvement for kittehcoin.

I'm not sure why you think my involvement in a management capacity would be seen as a bad thing for the community or why you think that your 5 btc buy order is some sort of altruistic donation to the community. Lets be realistic, your buy order at 2 satoshi is an investment.
I understand your frustration though. I have spoken with several volunteers so far and they were quite welcoming to me. Others had no knowledge of my involvement and were a little bit taken aback. For that I apologize, as the project/community is fragmented at the moment it was impossible for me to know everything.

Quote from: adamg on May 04, 2014, 07:06:12 PM

Yeah just went onto IRC and it sounds like he has annoyed a lot of the community already with his my way or the highway attitude. TBH I haven't seen him on irc before which is concerning as I have been in there most the day for the last few months. Also he pm'ed me offering me rewards for marketing the coin when I market it for free. This raises the question of how he can find rewards for such a task. This isn't my main concern, my two concerns are his love of multipools (which I hate as they go against my ehtos and what I thought kittehcoin was against) and he wants to go Proof-of-Stake instead of Proof-of-Work which will rule out merge mining with dogecoin and others. Overall if these changes go ahead I'll be dumping my coins on the market which will surely crash it.

I wouldn't call one vocal member (OkPatriot) a lot of the community. I never said my way or the highway. In fact I told him that I'm sure we can come to an agreement that we will all be satisfied with.
I find your tone here to be quite abrasive and inconducive to the process of moving this project forward.

Also posting ultimatums such as "if he does this then I'll do this, and you'll all suffer!" (paraphrasing) seems to be counterproductive to enacting positive change and I would expect from a marketing background you would think twice before posting inflammatory remarks such as these.
In the future it might be best to direct these kinds of comments or questions to Dano or myself.

Whether you dislike multipools or not does not change the current state of the market or the industry as a whole. I don't appreciate the effect multipools have on the cryptocurrency market either, but they are a necessary evil when you look at the bigger picture. Kittehcoin does not exist in a vacuum, but from the sentiment I get from you and OkPatriot it seems that is the way you are viewing it. What you or I want to do holds no weight against what kitteh needs to do. If you don't evolve with the market you get left behind.

I DID offer you rewards (I mentioned all key members of the team should and would be compensated on a regular basis) but obviously to do that we would have to enact serious change to the protocol. We cannot expect serious and qualified professionals to spend large amounts of time out of the goodness of their hearts. We also cannot expect to pay these people by donation. Hard work should be compensated and as a a key member of the team who's work would be valuable to the entire community a marketing strategist should be rewarded.

Let's also understand the market has already crashed, so dumping your kittehs couldn't do much more damage than has already been done.
In any case, I don't want you to do that. I would like to work with you to make this currency valuable and successful. But in order to do that I need you to work with me and not attack me.
Obviously there was a disconnect in the line of communication between dano and the community and that is unfortunate. But painting me as some sort of napolean will not help the situation.

I still welcome you to speak to me about how we can move kitteh forward.
I'll be on IRC most of the evening.