Quote from: nutildah on March 27, 2025, 02:33:13 PM

Here's the problem: you are the one breaking your own country's laws here; not Roobet. Switzerland has absolutely no jurisdiction over Roobet, but they do over you. If anyone is going to get in trouble, its you and/or your internet services provider for not blocking access to Roobet (although I'm guessing you were accessing it via VPN as you were with Stake).

Your government goes out of their way to blacklist every online casino there is... You knew about this which is why you used a VPN in the first place. Then only after you lost did you concoct a scheme to get your money back; not once but twice now. If it didn't work the first time, what makes you think it will work a second?

Quote from: edondoko on March 27, 2025, 01:20:50 PM

At this point, it doesn't matter whether anyone supports me or not. I lose nothing but time, but they lose money and reputation—so honestly, I couldn't care less if you're on my side or not.

Because your case is spurious, they lose neither.

Oh man, you really don’t know what you’re talking about, do you? Let me break it down real slow for you.

Switzerland absolutely has jurisdiction over Roobet.

Why? Because Roobet violated Swiss administrative criminal law (Verwaltungsstrafrecht) by operating without a valid license and offering services to Swiss residents, which is illegal under Swiss gambling laws. Swiss authorities (ESBK) have the legal right to pursue action against them.

It doesn’t matter if Roobet is based in Curacao, on a pirate ship, or on the damn moon. The moment they illegally offer services in Switzerland, Swiss law applies. That’s how international law works.

Now, let’s address your nonsense about me "breaking the law."

You claim that I could be held accountable for playing there? Wrong. The GSG explicitly states that Swiss players are not committing a crime by gambling on an unlicensed platform. However, the money wagered is considered illegal, and as such, it can be confiscated by the ESBK.

Meaning? I can't be held accountable—but Roobet can.

If I had been at a net profit and they refused to withdraw my winnings, they would be legally allowed to under Swiss law. However, since they knowingly accepted my deposits and wagers despite being illegal in Switzerland, they profited unlawfully. At this point, I can inform the ESBK, and both my deposit and any winnings could be confiscated in a criminal lawsuit.

In other words: Roobet doesn’t get to keep the money—they lose it all.

Oh, but wait—you probably still think ESBK has "zero influence" over these casinos?

Then explain this:

📌 ESBK Email regarding my case with Stake:

https://ibb.co/FqNLj8DR

📌 Article about Stake Lawsuit:

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-made/f1-sauber-cleared-of-unauthorized-advertising-rules-swiss-commission/79738912#:~:text=The%20SFGB%20therefore%20initiated%20an,should%20generally%20be%20considered%20advertising

So they had enough influence to hit Stake with a criminal lawsuit but somehow can’t do the same to Roobet? 🤡 Lmao, what are you even on, lil bro?

This just proves my point that you, like many others (looking at you, AHOYABROUSE), didn’t actually read through the whole post—neither this one nor the other one about Stake.

Now, let’s talk about the actual issue.

Why aren’t you addressing any of my actual allegations?

❓ Why did Roobet claim they were legally allowed to operate in Switzerland?
❓ Where is their Swiss license proving that?
❓ If they don’t have a license, why did they lie to me?
❓ Why does Roobet accept Swiss players and even allow Swiss documents for KYC verification?

This isn’t just about me. This is about Roobet blatantly violating Swiss law and profiting from it.

Stake at least tried to cover their ass—Roobet? Not so much.

Stake legally distanced themselves from Swiss players (probably after their lawsuit) according to their Switzerland Customer Policy dated 01.01.2023. They assured the ESBK that from that date forward, Swiss players would be completely blocked from registering, wagering, and verifying their accounts.

Like I already pointed out in my Stake post, this still leaves a question unanswered:

❓ Why wasn’t my account blocked as of 01.01.2023 given the KYC1-Details from Switzerland?

My evidence has already been sent to the ESBK, and I'm waiting for their response. But regardless of what happens there, Roobet is still completely exposed because they didn’t even bother trying to comply with Swiss law.

If you still think there’s no legal ground for this, just stop contributing to this post. Seriously.

I appreciate any actual discussion, but if you don’t know what you’re talking about, then don’t act like you do.

And if you think you do know, then back it up with real proof—not just your personal opinion. Thanks.