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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
by
paxmao
on 08/04/2025, 11:41:46 UTC
Until what? Well, Ruzzia has the objective of becoming the USSR again, with influence or direct control over all the Warsaw Pact. So, I guess the war can go on until there is a leader in Ruzzia who decides that there may be much much better ways of making Ruzzia a decent and economically prosperous region.

Alternatively, the war can go on until the oil reaches 40 USD at which point the war will not be sustainable. Or, it can go on until Ruzzia does not longer have oild exporting facilities West of Moscow, or perhaps not either East of Moscow....

Why setting a dealine? It is worth having Ruzzia bagging the head against the wall.

But that is iddle talk, Rubio recently stated that it will be known if Ruzzia wants peace in weeks rather than in months. I mean, I personally already know that Putin does not want peace under the current circumstances and particularly since Trump has been very floral about him, but as I mentioned in a few posts before, Trump is still learning the basics of Ruzzian "diplomacy".

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/4/us-will-know-in-weeks-if-russia-serious-about-ceasefire-rubio-says

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Top US diplomat tells NATO counterparts Washington still committed to alliance.

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United States Secretary of State Marco Rubio has told his NATO counterparts that it will become clear within weeks if Russia is “serious” about reaching a ceasefire in Ukraine.

He is basically speaking of considering "facts" not declarations, words or anything else. As said, I would not need to wait but I guess Rubio does not want to immediatly send decissive aid to Ukraine before having some further reasons.

So just going back to status quo of 2013 is not an option? Your whole propaganda is based on the concept that Russia will attack Poland, Czech republic etc?

Will Ukraine be able to continue to provide enough manpower until there's that change of leadership in Russia you speak of? Or no one really considers UA people or cares enough to even discuss it

Edit: Russia wants peace, just on their terms. But peace on any terms for Zelenskiy means he's no longer a president (if he's even a legitimate president now)

Of course Ruzzia wants peace on their terms. The problem is obviously, the terms which basically consist in getting everything ready for the next invasion. What do you pretend here? Getting people to think Putin is peaceful after 3 years of war? That is cute.

My current thinking and that of many others is that:

- Ruzzia has lost long time ago any credibility in respect to what Putin says and what Putin signs.
- There is clear and factual evidence before everyone's eyes that Ruzzia is willing to invade independent countries, and still believe they have some "right" to do so.

It is irrelevant what you believe or what I believe and certainly calling it propaganda is very stupid from you. There is no propaganda, this is what the current thinking is across many countries.

The fact is that there is no reason whatsoever to allow Ruzzia to take Ukraine, change governments at whim nor use the nuclear capability to threaten others. Wheter Ruzzia has very nice intentions and would not go further than Ukraine... as said, all we know is what Putin has done until now and it is by far safer to think that he will invade the moment he percieves weakness or an opportunity.

The best chance for peace: leave Ruzzia weapons stocks as low as possible, the country with as much debt as possible, the sanctions as high as possible, the diplomacy as damaged as possible and the energy infrastructure destroyed - if possible for several years.

That is "peace guarantees", not a piece of paper.

BTW,  seems like oil is reaching a point in which war is going to be even more difficult to finance for Ruzzia. Putin may decide to wait until it goes back to 60 or 70 to invade again - it has been the pattern for now.