Quote from: JiiBs on April 09, 2025, 11:52:27 PM

Quote from: theymos on April 09, 2025, 08:32:38 PM

Quote from: Medusah on April 09, 2025, 07:15:38 AM

I'm leaving this here.
https://www.justice.gov/dag/media/1395781/dl?inline

That is an extremely good development! I've also been pleased to see several other actions like that, such as removing Tornado Cash from the sanctions list. However, President Trump has only been in office for a few months, and the actual effects of these stated policy positions won't be clear for a while. The Biden administration also said that mixers aren't necessarily illegal, and that they weren't anti-crypto. Actions and time will speak louder than words. So I probably won't consider reversing the mixer ban until Trump has been in office for a full year, and we have a fuller picture of how his administration actually operates in these areas.

Not a bad stances on this, don’t know what the stakes really was but, when it’s come to government and its policies, it’s always up to time to define the context of its policy formation and how it could be applied. Taking it head straight could always end badly as, they are the government, they always have a way to twist these policies and to put you in bad position to benefit the government of the day.

I don't really disagree with any of theymos's observations in regards to both the positive developments, and also the uncertainties in respect to how the specifics of enforcement might play out. Even though theymos expressed this as something that likely is going to need a year or more to show meaningful evidence, I think that he is being too strict and overly cautious, since he even seems to admit that the situation is somewhat fluid, and surely if he seeks counsel (legal advice), there surely would be legal opinions that would argue that the mere executive announcements provide a sufficient enough cover in order to potentially ease up on some of the earlier restrictions and even to potentially revisit the matter on a quarterly basis, rather than presuming that there is any kind of actual legal need for a whole year to have to play out before revisiting the topic.

Surely, the rights of regular people are being taken away when there is excessive government crack down and even a variety of chilling effects that play out from actions that governments (various agencies) choose to take from time to time when selectively going after certain entities, and surely the Tornado cash and Samarai arrests were additional chilling actions that went beyond the Sinbad and Chipmixer situations, where there were more difficulties identifying (and bringing into custody) individual actors.

I guess my main point is that aspects of theymos's chosen framework seems a bit overly conservative, and it may be good for him, the forum and forum members if he might be able to potentially seek the opinion of more than one legal counsel, to the extent that legal counsel might be influencing his level of chosen conservativism in regards to timelines to potentially revisit these kinds of matters and potentially if there might be some lightening actions that already could be taken based on our obviously having a less hostile environment in regards to mixers and various related third-party (internet communication services) liability topics.