Quote from: franky1 on April 10, 2025, 10:24:15 PM

Quote from: o48o on April 10, 2025, 09:24:48 PM

And franky1, trump is talking, media is reporting about it. If trump is incoherent, or wants to be cryptic about it, don't blame media for reporting what he says.

Only who never wanted to negotiate in the first place was Donald Trump, and who knows how dumb his terms are going to be and why would people accept them? Why would you think he would make any better deals then he has done in the past? Or maybe he don't remember what deals were made by him?

media is not reporting everything.. ever heard of clickbait, provocative journalism?

if you want to just take media's clipped short quotes as gospel then you are not understanding the full context of most quotes.. thats where you have to do your own research as media are crap at investigative journalism, they just want the quick quote and use it to create click bait emotionally provocative stories using their own bias opinions of interpretation

You know that everyone can see what he posts and says? Full quotes exist and you can always post them as counter argument. But this magical hidden context argument is hilarious.

During his last term i actually watched unedited speeches original tweets. That was worst waste of my time. Because if you have stomach to watch his ramblings on an on, you know it just gets surreal how crazy he is, and media definitely tunes the craziness down. And turned out that all those people shouting "mainstream media lies" never even listened him, or read his tweets any more then media reported. They all just thought media was lying, because he is just too crazy to be true.

And yeah, media lies. Like biggest and most mainstream media out there called Fox. It's almost as blatant as north-korea state media. Just don't drag all the media on the same trump conformist lying category. That's just dishonest and lazy

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Quote from: franky1 on April 10, 2025, 10:24:15 PM

remember how he wanted to use tariffs on canada to help negotiate how canada can further secure the US northern border to prevent drugs trafficking of fentanyl compounds

did you forget so soon?

tariffs were always aimed at being a negotiation tool of political partnership deals of things unrelated to just goods transfer fees

How many percent of that fentanyl comes from Canada? Negotiation brilliance right there.

And he literally said that this wasn't a negotiation, and every maga-hat believed him. And turns out it wasn't, it's just market manipulation and insider trading. Every other theory does make zero sense, but then again so does his statements.