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They have ASML (in the Netherland), that's pretty strategic. (Most of the technology used by the Taiwanese semiconductor company relies on the 3D silicone printing done by ASML).
A. It is not '3D silicone printing'. The EUV (Extreme Ultra Violet) lithography process used is not '3D printing' - it is a 2D photo process used to etch patterns onto wafers made of pure  silicon (Si) as in the element - not silicone which are materials that incorporate Si as part of their chemical makeup.

B. All that matters is ASML is a Western owned corporation - aside from not being located in Asia, where their facilities producing the EUV photo lithography stepper systems are located is pretty irrelevant. Their operations being located in Europe does not give Europe any special benefits when it comes to chip building other than lower shipping cost for the dozens of shipping containers worth of equipment needed for each EUV system.

C. It must be pointed out that over 90% of all chips used in the world do NOT require cutting edge EUV tech because they use gates that are larger than 5nm and lower where EUV is a requirement. Most range from the high double-digit nm size up to double and even triple-digit micron size. These chips are used in countless devices, eg, car electronics, remote controls, AV systems, IoT & edge-computing devices, interface chips, LED lighting, etc. Equipment for producing those sizes is very cheap and not particularly difficult to build & run. The problem is that those chips are priced as mass produced commodities (dirt cheap) and very few Western companies are interested in making them in their countries because labor costs are too high.
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They have ASML (in the Netherland), that's pretty strategic. (Most of the technology used by the Taiwanese semiconductor company relies on the 3D silicone printing done by ASML).
A. It is not '3D silicone printing'. The EUV (Extreme Ultra Violet) lithography process used is not '3D printing' - it is a 2D photo process used to etch patterns in onto wafers made of pure  silicon (Si) as in the element - not silicone which are materials that incorporate Si as part of their chemical makeup.

B. All that matters is ASML is a Western owned corporation - aside from not being located in Asia, where their facilities producing the EUV photo lithography stepper systems are located is pretty irrelevant. Their operations being located in Europe does not give themEurope any special benefits when it comes to chip building other than lower shipping cost for the dozens of shipping containers worth of equipment needed for each EUV system.

C. It must be pointed out that over 90% of all chips used in the world do NOT require cutting edge EUV tech because they use gates that are larger than 5nm where EUV is a requirement. Most range from the high double-digit nm size up to double and even triple-digit micron size. eg, car electronics, remote controls, AV systems, IoT devices, interface chips, etc. Equipment for those sizes is very cheap and not particularly difficult to build & run. The problem is that those chips are priced as mass produced commodities (dirt cheap) and very few Western companies are interested in making them in their countries.
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They have ASML (in the Netherland), that's pretty strategic. (Most of the technology used by the Taiwanese semiconductor company relies on the 3D silicone printing done by ASML).
A. It is not '3D silicone printing' The EUV (Extreme Ultra Violet) lithography process used is not '3D printing' - it is a 2D photo process used to etch patterns in silicon (Si) as in the element - not silicone which are materials that incorporate Si as part of their chemical makeup.

B. All that matters is ASML is a Western owned corporation - aside from not being located in Asia, where their facilities producing the EUV photo lithography stepper systems are located is pretty irrelevant. Their operations being located in Europe does not give them any special benefits when it comes to chip building.
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They have ASML (in the Netherland), that's pretty strategic. (Most of the technology used by the Taiwanese semiconductor company relies on the 3D silicone printing done by ASML).
A. It is not '3D silicone printing' The EUV (Extreme Ultra Violet) lithography process used is not '3D printing' - it is a 2D photo process used to etch patterns in silicon (Si) as in the element - not silicone which are materials that incorporate Si as part of their chemical makeup.

B. All that matters is ASML is a Western owned corporation - where their facilities are located is pretty irrelevant. Their operations being located in Europe does not give them any special benefits when it comes to chip building.