Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 06:30:22 PM

Quote from: colinfx on May 03, 2014, 06:04:00 PM

Quote from: IconicExpert on May 03, 2014, 05:54:39 PM

Quote from: colinfx on May 03, 2014, 05:46:17 PM

I took the comment down as I am trying to avoid some argument. But yes, I did feel like it is a threat to "crash the market" that you are making. I spend most of my time elsewhere and this thread grows so fast I can't keep up with it.

This thread is disorganised, scrappy and inefficiently sequential.

Personally I think anyone NOT behind the Dev team, Legion or the community managers should just hold a different coin - or setup their own. I think the Dev team/upcoming foundation have done a FANTASTIC JOB on BlackCoin. And continue to do so.

I've been with BlackCoin from the start and I don't want ANY changes to the Dev team or official community management team.

I do not argue over legitimate concerns. You are entitled to support whomever you want, but if a large majority of the community does not have faith in their business management skills there is a problem. Just because someone is a brilliant coder or community manager, doesn't mean they can run a multi-million dollar project.

OK lets discuss facts and not post FUD...in the past 8 weeks what has the dev team done in regards to PR?

Herein lies part of the problem. Your argument is based on a false premise which I have highlighted above.

I do not believe that "a large majority of the community" shares your views on the Dev team. I don't understand why can't you just carry on with your style of PR work and let the Dev team, Legion and Community Management do their "Official" work? They've done a splendid job so far and I want it to continue as it is.

You have yet to answer my question. If we are going to debate this rationally please tell me what has the dev team done in the past 8 weeks? What makes them "splendid"?

The multi-pool was another member idea.
The 2 two press releases was the community.
CoinKite was the community.
The cards were me.
Vault Of Satoshi was the community lead by me.
Wall Street is currently the community.
Moolah and related services was the community.

We the coin of the future doesn't have an Android Wallet, the website is not localized for our Non-English users, and are social outreach is severely lacking. If this was a Corporation do you think the board or the shareholders would think their performance is "splendid"?

too much focus is on me and my ego and not enough focus is where it should be.

I am not going to debate this anymore....I will focus on my own efforts with the community because I do not want to see my portfolio and the portfolio of others shrink due to incompetence. I will move forward with launching GoBlackCoin.com and promote the hell out of it using my music app with 3 million+ users. Between the people here ready for change and the new users that GoBlackCoin.com will acquire, everything we are arguing about today will be a mute.

I was told by soekip that language translations of website was not of interest, it was really something they didn't want to do, cause of the work involved. Are these the people you want marketing your investments? They are not qualifited for running a foundation, and is the reason there is people upset, and the divid. It's all about tech people running a business, and they have not skills to warrent them being in charge or public face of millions of dollars. Please people, it's not like soekip and others shouldn't all work together, but to start foundation and go for a power grap is the source of the problem here. We cannot let this happen if you value your investments. These kids are smart when it comes to tech side and should continue, but to believe they are businessmen from there lack of marketing and promotions, is putting trust in someone thats have no experience in this area.

How to settle this? Remove the board, stop it in it's tracks. Then, and only then will you have people chipping in and helping, and not having to run things past a foundation in order to get approval or funding, whatever. These are young guys with probably little to no business experience. If they want to be in charge of this, I believe resumes and interviewing for the job is in order. Not just promoting themselves cause they have been here longer or have more coins, or are in IRC the most.