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If we keep buying bitcoin every week, then our quantity of bitcoin and/or our quantity of satoshis will keep increasing.

After accumulating bitcoin 4-10 years or longer, we should have a pretty good stash of satoshis.

Sure, the more sats we accumulate per week the more the quantity of our Bitcoin starsh increases. That is why we need to keep accumulating because no matter how small it looks compiling starshes the more it becomes reasonable in due time. Most times guys don't value the little starsh they accumulate because it looks small but they forgot that no matter what we do in life we must learn to start small and be consistent and the results there of will speak for it's self. I believe in the theory that states that dream is like a scattered puzzle, the more you are curious and making a step by step process to complete it theore the dream is becoming clearer. And that is how investment is too. You must not need to start big but like by little to succeed.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 14, 2025, 11:35:49 PM

I would also imagine that at some point, we will calculate our abilities to start to cash out bitcoin (withdraw from our bitcoin stash), which may well be price based cashing out or time based cashing out.

A person who can only start thinking of cashing out his Bitcoin starsh is a person that has met the target of his fuck you status. And his target will only be to cashout %10 of his Bitcoin profit and strart to mitigate the Bitcoin withdrawal strategy. In other not to fuck up.

I am not completely sure if a person would need to reach fuck you status before reaching some kind of an overaccumulatoin status, yet guys have to figure out why they might be justified in feeling that they are no longer focused on strictly accumulating bitcoin.

Another thing is that I had come up with some formulas in which I thought that it was justifiable to start to sell up to 10% of my BTC stash every time that the bitcoin price doubled, and surely there were various other caveats in my ways of carrying out my plan that created biases towards making sure that I was not selling too much BTC. Guys have to figure out their own formulas, and surely if they were feeling that they had enough BTC to employ such a strategy and they were to project out their strategy into the future, which i would be considered to be mostly a price-based projection with their feeling comfortable with their formulas, then surely, I have no problem with guys concluding that they have enough or more than enough bitcoin in order to feel justified iin the carrying out of such a frame work. i recall in the Rptiella plan, he had suggested a raking plan that would rake profits in the ballpark of 10% for every doubling, but the raking did not start on the first doubling, but at some higher valuation.. and surely each of us can look at our stash and figure out formulas for those kinds of practices, which in my price-based sustainable withdrawal discussion, I have also created some tools that show ways to employ and/or to consider these kinds of matters.

Quote from: Pi-network314159 on April 15, 2025, 08:58:56 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 14, 2025, 11:35:49 PM

We cannot be guaranteed that the future will be as good as the past or even that we will end up in profits, even though surely it seems that bitcoin remains amongst the best of investments that is currently available to everyone and/or anyone in all parts of the world... perhaps even the best investment currently available to everyone and/or anyone..

I agree with you that there is no guarantee that the future will be good as the past, yet there is a high possibility that the future HODLs more opportunities and chances to succeed than the past. Let's take Bitcoin as a case study, Bitcoin has just being in existence for about 16years or so, and has risen from less than a dollar to around $109k as ATH meaning that it could increase from less than a t currently from $85k as at now to $250k in the Year to come. meaning that in 10 Years time it will increase pass this stage because Bitcoin adoption will increase. Wether we like it or not, any asset you buy now has the potential to make you r in the future because inflation will add liquidity to it.

I will agree that bitcoin still has a lot of upside potential, such as even the possibility to appreciate around 10,000x more from here.. yet there is no way to really know if that kind of price appreciation could take 50-200 years to play out.

In my calculation of 10,000x from here, I am suggesting that bitcoin is likely in the ballpark of more than 1,000x better than gold yet right now bitcoin is priced only about 1/10th of gold's price.

Another thing is that bitcoin's total addressable market is likely in the ballpark of 1 Quadrillion dollars, and since bitcoin's market cap is a priced around $2 trillion, that would ONLY be around 500x from here.. so showing some limitations in regard to the addressable market.

I get $1quadrillion based on monetary value that is in various assets, and Jessee Meyer had predicted that to be aroudn $900 trillion and also, Jessee Meyer had projected that bitcoin might ONLY take around 20% or so of it's total addressable market, which would be around $180 trillion which means that bitcoin could go up around 90x from here under Meyer's formulations of addressable market. There are various ways to formulate bitcoin's further price appreciation from here.

Even if we take bitcoin from it's 2012 starting point at around $5 per BTC, then we might say that right now, we might proclaim that bitcoin has gone up around 16,600x since the beginning of 2012.. so bitcoin does not seem to have even close to that level of price appreciation into the future.. .... even though I would considder 100x to 1,000x to be more than feasible in the coming 5-20 years.

Quote from: Familian on April 15, 2025, 10:40:29 PM

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Quote from: Familian on April 14, 2025, 04:33:19 PM

Akin to the saying that excess of everything is bad,

Too much of everything is indeed bad and we must be able to maintain a boundary or let let me put it this way that a limit to everything we are doing, if we don't want to risk losing our investment fund for nothing, we must be careful of the steps we take, the way we trade or invest, the time management as well as the risk factors all inclusive on whatever decision we are taking regarding bitcoin investment, it does not end up in making the first step, but taking the right path in doing so.

Thoughtfully on the other hand we can put efforts to invest as wide as possible but should always do our research and get our findings right about any asset b for moving onto investing in it and if it's the right asset with potential for huge profits maybe investing excessively might not be that bad because the returns will be coming in massively in the future after a waiting period.

Hopefully you are not so fucking retarded as to think that it is a good idea for beginners to be diversifying from the start of their investment for the mere sake of diversification? and if you are referring to diversifying to shitcoins, that sounds even worse.

It is probably wise for any brand new investor to merely focus on bitcoin and cash, and if me might want to add other investments at some later date, then that is his choice, yet to me it seems that it takes so long to build up a bitcoin investment that it would not be any good idea to be losing focus into shitcoins and/or other investments, especially for anyone who might not have a lot of starting out capital.

On the other hand, if someone comes to bitcoin and they already have other investments and they have investing experience, then maybe they are going to be inclined to continue their other investing and adding bitcoin into their investing mix. There are some traditional investors who will just let their traditional investment ride and they will add bitcoin to their investments... so then they will focus on bitcoin for 1-2 years or more and build their investment portion... yet if someone has a 401k or something like that, then they are receiving matching employer contributions, so they might feel some dilemma in regards to putting money into bitcoin and perhaps having to make sure that they are still able to get their employer matching contribution... so there could be dilemmas especially for folks who might be investing at such a low rate that they are not even taking advantage of their employer's matching contribution. Bitcoin is likely a superior investment over a 401k, yet there may be some employer 401ks and/or other investment plans that also might have bitcoin related products contained therein (such as if they might have BTC ETFs or something like that contained therein), which might bed incentives for getting bitcoin exposure through their employer-related investment vehicles.