Quote from: mikeywith on April 21, 2025, 09:59:17 PM

Which makes you wonder -- do these guys even know how to code shit? If yes, what stops them from taking testnet4? They don't want to fight evil with evil?

I do not code. I organize.

I/We are not attempting to be evil either. Very much the opposite.

In fact, the majority of people behind closed doors are absolutely fine with what we are doing and are having a great time watching the show. Bitcoin Testnet couldn't have value when Bitcoin was $10 a coin, but now Bitcoin has priced out many of the people who were able to handle $10. Bitcoin has reached a maturity where is safe and even a good thing that Testnet has a tiny amount of value. It is a feature at this point IMO.

My goal is to help people obtain whole testnet coins and to inspire thought, both of which I believe I am successfully executing.

Quote from: d5000 on April 16, 2025, 11:49:14 PM

Perhaps it would be worth it as a call to AltQuick.com to delist that pair. Tongue

This could be exciting!!!!

The loss would be passed along to the customers as per the FAQ and the warnings plastered all over the trading pages.

We are attacked daily too btw. It is no secret that weirdos want to disrupt our little free market. Plus, exchanges are a pretty prime target for fuckery on all levels... from state actors/rogue nations to mouth breathers in their 80 yr old mothers basement drinking mouthwash.

If Testnet is worth nothing, then vote with your feet and assist it to zero. Very simple, but most people that think it is valueless are not willing to put their money were their mouth is and exchange the "worthless" testnet for Bitcoin... it is rather strange. (Plenty do, though. I know we have customers who are Bitcoin Mailing list participants, but none of them will say it, and I won't either.)

You would hurt holders by not holding, it seems brutally clear to me. Sell it into the dirt and take the free Bitcoins.

The issue is Developers with >10,000 coins are crying about faucets with no business plans running dry and people who want Testnet bad enough to spend 1 Dogecoin on it, lulzzzzzzzz.

Quote from: Accardo on April 25, 2025, 02:05:51 PM

The good part of it is that it hurts the functionality of testnet marketplaces

This is not true. The blockstorms *HELPED* the Testnet marketplace and users.

If you want to drown me in support tickets and make my life shitty, make it where the third worlders don't get confirmations on their transactions like in Testnet v4. Making stuff confirm really fast is like "Thank you!"

Drying out the v3 Testnet reward also helped the market's scarcity. (Scarcity, which is already grossly assisted by Testnet being "worthless" rather than a few pennies. See my grocery cart in the parking lot Walmart VS Aldi comparison.)

It drove up the demand for our free testnet faucet, other faucets that depended on mining to serve their customer went out of business in a week, and that led to more trading activity as well.

Testnet 3 is trading for 10x the price of Testnet 4 at the time of this post... so I'd argue that Lopp failed spectacularly and Testnet 4 shows the level of incompetence he and other current Bitcoin developers are operating at. Testnet 4 is not being hijacked, it is being flexed on because Developers did such a poor job that it deserves to be highlighted. I almost can't help but giggle reading the mailing list at what they think would make it more worthless.

In Bitcoin terms where Bitcoin = whatever fork is trading for more value. Bitcoin Testnet 3 is still Testnet and v4 is a sloppy attempt at a hostile(ish) take over, which has "failed". Perhaps failure in Bitcoin Testnet makes that Testnet the "real" one (opposite of Bitcoin, lol! Come on, this is kinda fun...)

To think we aren't ready and excited for Testnet v5 would be silly. (Testnet5.com)

I intend on turning BitcoinTest.net into a pretty sweet website in the near future as well.

Just because someone has 51% doesn't mean they are going to attack it. I've cross that point quietly without anyone noticing way more than once. Cryptocurrency isn't actually about security, it's about mostly about the illusion of security (until it isn't lol Tongue

). If you have 75% of the network, split it up into 3, so it appears three entities have 25% each... and everyone is soooo thrilled by how decentralized it is!!!!! Omg it's gods gift to man because it's so fukin decentralized. Roll Eyes

Today I'll probably cross 51% in Testnet for fun, just to test and see how the network reacts with this new public pool (https://testnet4.btclab.dev/#/) I found last night. It's a little risky, but that is Testnet... get out there, do some wild shit and have fun!

Edit 4/29 I'm over 51% in Testnet. Testing will last ~24 hours. https://testnet4.btclab.dev/#/app/tb1q9qa5vcsz2nwd3etl46y56z7ckj75zjd5e8c5z3