Quote from: Vod on April 19, 2025, 11:30:53 PM

Quote from: Vod on April 18, 2025, 11:27:36 PM

A UFO is an unidentified flying object, but it's almost an impossibility it's alien. (It is possible that an old race had a probe close enough to pick up our radio and over the last hundred years they contacted their home and visited recently, but that is more storytelling than science)

OK, we have detected the first signs of life (methane and water vapor) on another planet - 124 light years away. In 124 years a civilization could move from pre-industrial to space faring, but I doubt they would have advanced enough to detect our strongest signals (emitted by our ballistic missile detection systems) even if it had reached them yet.

If we had our most advanced theoretical radio telescope (like a Dyson-swarm radio array) we could only detect the strongest planet radar pulses up to a few hundred light years away, and only if it was directed at us and not broadcast.

That is just detection - travelling is a completely different story. if you are biological, you won't survive the journey. If you are digital, you won't care to make the journey.

We need to stop with the fantasies of being watched and/or protected by advanced alien species or gods. We are all alone, as are each of the millions of civilizations out there. In the desert, there are thousands of ant colonies not aware of each other. Anybody want to go document them (walking only) and help out the ones that show the most promise?

Quote from: Vod on April 19, 2025, 11:30:53 PM

Quote from: Vod on April 18, 2025, 11:27:36 PM

A UFO is an unidentified flying object, but it's almost an impossibility it's alien. (It is possible that an old race had a probe close enough to pick up our radio and over the last hundred years they contacted their home and visited recently, but that is more storytelling than science)

OK, we have detected the first signs of life (methane and water vapor) on another planet - 124 light years away. In 124 years a civilization could move from pre-industrial to space faring, but I doubt they would have advanced enough to detect our strongest signals (emitted by our ballistic missile detection systems) even if it had reached them yet.

If we had our most advanced theoretical radio telescope (like a Dyson-swarm radio array) we could only detect the strongest planet radar pulses up to a few hundred light years away, and only if it was directed at us and not broadcast.

That is just detection - travelling is a completely different story. if you are biological, you won't survive the journey. If you are digital, you won't care to make the journey.

We need to stop with the fantasies of being watched and/or protected by advanced alien species or gods. We are all alone, as are each of the millions of civilizations out there. In the desert, there are thousands of ant colonies not aware of each other. Anybody want to go document them (walking only) and help out the ones that show the most promise?

Possible, but does every life has to require water, oxygen, or something (we humans perticular consider life)?, there are certain things that are alive that don't require water or even oxygen, some of which are Bacteria, and Mixroscopic organisms (Fact: Ganges in India don't contain bacteria, the water doesn't have bacateria evne if you try to pollute it with bacteria, the water will kill it... can science tell why that's the case?)
Yes there can be life no denying that, if they were advanced than us, then they would care about privacy sadly methane, and water vapor Undecided

we consider the signals (emitted by our ballistic millisle detection system) maybe they won't, maybe less advanced, or maybe something else, but Elon Musk got hate from scientis (i presume) he did cry over that, mars is the mission, but do you know pyramid like structure were discovered on mars, how would something in Egypt has to be on mars? (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/martian-pyramid-photo/) - Could this be something else?, likely, are there chances, maybe, is it pyramid, that's also a possibility.

Like detection system - China's LARID Radar Detects Plasma Bubble Over Egyptian Pyramids (This is what's above the pyramid).

"Vast Underground City" Discovered Under Egyptian Pyramids, Claim Scientists (This under)

This guy explains is with points that are plausble - Yes this was done using satellite, oviously if you control egyptian place, and don't want someone know about this then you won't allow research at this depth (at least physically).

The question you should be asking is why is there a need to hide this?

Mirror
Radar expert Professor Lawrence Conyers, who was not involved in the study, is skeptical, MailOnline reports. He said: "To make correlation confidence levels there needs to be something to correlate to or compare to. What could that be here? Without that, these percentages are meaningless scientifically."

Yes, it took advanced tech of China to detect Plasma bubble, even when they didn't had any affair with Egypt, now consider those who can interefere with Egypt, but haven't made this discovery, aren't doing it, or don't want to if the real question. - Not to mention there was some person in past who discovered a hidden passage to Underground chambers/places, but later denied that claim after being threatned (I don't think I'll have to point to the source at this point).

Egyptian Pyramids aren't the only pyramids on Earth (At least in the open).

Also, about Elon Musk crying over people not supporting him for Mars mission, those astronauts saw something on Moon (who knows aliens likely), they received threats to not make this information public, now if you were them what would you do? Expose some alien beings with less than 1% possibility being successful in that, or get back to your normal life, you won't have to be a genuis to think for youself...

Now it seems like I am digging a rabbit hole, I should stop here, I would've made a good article though