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1. Does the method guarantee finding the target?

Random Method:
No, the random method does not guarantee that the target will be found. Since the selection is random, there's always a chance the correct key may never be hit, even after billions of attempts.

Sequential Method:
Yes, the sequential method does guarantee that the target will be found—eventually. It walks through the entire keyspace in a defined order, ensuring the target is reached if it exists within the range.

2. Memory usage and performance

Random Method:
One major downfall of the random method is that you need to store every point that has already been calculated.
Why? Because there's a high chance the algorithm will hit the same key multiple times.
To avoid repeating calculations, you’d need to store and check against all previously visited keys, which requires a huge amount of memory.
This not only slows down performance due to frequent memory lookups but also increases the complexity of the implementation.

Sequential Method:
In contrast, with the sequential method, you don’t need to store every key.
You only need to track the last key calculated. There's no duplication, and memory usage remains minimal.
This makes the sequential method faster, more memory-efficient, and easier to manage.

Conclusion
While the random method might give the illusion of better performance in short experiments due to lucky hits, it comes with significant drawbacks: lack of guarantee, heavy memory use, and slower performance over time. The sequential method is predictable, memory-efficient, and guaranteed to succeed, making it a more reliable and scalable solution in the long run.




Let’s quit the AI stuff.
Both method find the solution 100% of the time. This wasn’t the debate



No need to act like a pack of Twitter bullies.

To be fair we explained stuff in a friendly way for 20 pages before giving up and starting making fun of you.
Maybe, just maybe, your behaviour caused this ?

Also, don’t worry. Many geniuses have been mocked during their lifetime.

don’t worry, I'm 100% sure that I'm right.


Who might be interested.
Probabilistic search of prefixes vs random+sequential



Idk why when we say something we’re idiots who don’t get maths but when RC says the same thing it’s gospel.
Glad we have a dedicated post for this though !




I haven't mentioned Rc, but since you bring it up, I wasn’t sure about their Sota method until I tested it. As a result, I publicly acknowledged it in their thread. I'm not going to debate something I know I'm wrong about just out of ego. If I haven’t accepted yours explanations, it’s not because of ego—it’s because if checks/simulations are relatively equal in each method, the only way to determine which one is better is by relying on the average number of victories, which is the truly important point here. Since the overall average does not interfere, it balances out proportionally.

Sota is not their method, it’s… well it’s sota.
I think they mentioned the additional improvements over it are theirs though.(I.e unpublished)
No method is better than the other. They just have different variances.
Prefix is high risk high reward and linear is medium risk medium reward. It’s not that complicated.

Also, it’s not about ego. There is no right or wrong here.
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1. Does the method guarantee finding the target?

Random Method:
No, the random method does not guarantee that the target will be found. Since the selection is random, there's always a chance the correct key may never be hit, even after billions of attempts.

Sequential Method:
Yes, the sequential method does guarantee that the target will be found—eventually. It walks through the entire keyspace in a defined order, ensuring the target is reached if it exists within the range.

2. Memory usage and performance

Random Method:
One major downfall of the random method is that you need to store every point that has already been calculated.
Why? Because there's a high chance the algorithm will hit the same key multiple times.
To avoid repeating calculations, you’d need to store and check against all previously visited keys, which requires a huge amount of memory.
This not only slows down performance due to frequent memory lookups but also increases the complexity of the implementation.

Sequential Method:
In contrast, with the sequential method, you don’t need to store every key.
You only need to track the last key calculated. There's no duplication, and memory usage remains minimal.
This makes the sequential method faster, more memory-efficient, and easier to manage.

Conclusion
While the random method might give the illusion of better performance in short experiments due to lucky hits, it comes with significant drawbacks: lack of guarantee, heavy memory use, and slower performance over time. The sequential method is predictable, memory-efficient, and guaranteed to succeed, making it a more reliable and scalable solution in the long run.




Let’s quit the AI stuff.
Both method find the solution 100% of the time. This wasn’t the debate