Quote from: kawetsriyanto on April 23, 2025, 11:28:33 PM

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 23, 2025, 09:11:31 PM

~almost all of us agree Premier League is tougher than other leagues~

Seriously? The EPL is a farm league that an oil club can win 4 times in a row. Maybe if you compare only the middle of the tournament table, the EPL has a slight advantage, but overall La Liga >> EPL. None of the Premier League clubs outside the top category have won anything in Europe, while clubs like Sevilla, even when on the brink of relegation in La Liga, can win the European Cup. Look at those who won the Europa League - Sevilla, Atalanta, Eintracht, Villarreal, etc. If you go back in history, there will be anyone like Zenit, Porto, CSKA, Shakhtar, but there is not a single non-top club from the EPL.

Oil club? Do you mean Man City? lol
It is actually not so different with other leagues. In La Liga, Real Madrid and Barcelona too dominated the league. Meanwhile in Bundesliga, we have Bayern Munich as the most winner. Then in Serie A, Inter Milan is the team which often becomes the winner.

It is untrue that you said none of EPL teams winning in international competition in Europe. In Europa League, we have Chelsea and Man United which ever won the UEL trophy. Man United has the chance to win it again now if they can reach the final round. And if we have Man United vs Tottenham in the final, there must be an EPL team to be the champion.

Why do you seem very underestimate EPL team? Undecided

Please check: Europa League Winners

Friend, are you blind? Why did you write a whole sheet of nonsense without reading my message?
Are you saying that United (when coached by Mourinho and historically in general) or Chelsea during the Abramovich doping era are not top clubs? That they are like Villarreal or Sevilla or Eintracht?
Please reread our dialogue and be surprised at what nonsense you wrote.
I'm surprised you didn't include Liverpool in the category of bum clubs that won the Europa League Grin

Like: "Oh, you see - an ordinary, unremarkable club from the Premier League won the European Cup" Grin

Quote from: EL MOHA on Today at 01:12:23 AM

Although I don’t like the idea of comparing leagues with each other because I feel like it is something that doesn’t have. Definite metrics to been measured or compared, each league has its uniqueness. The Laliga can definitely boost of the European supremacy because of how Real Madrid precisely have dominated the combination and not anyone more, but those this makes the Laliga more competitive than the EPL? It’s definitely not. The EPL has many top teams that it can oozes of competition, I can say categorically that the most anticipated match In the league each season is the El Classico, the usual EPL days there is a traditional top 6 not top 3 like Laliga and this on its own is competition already.

As for the trophies, the year Sevilla scooped those titles they weren’t relegation team as you have clearly stated but they were usually a top four team which always gets dumped out of the Champions league and they compete in the Europa league but at EPL any time you see the traditional top 6 in the Europa league it’s means they are having a bad season, take a look at the two clubs in the semi finals now.

Also if want to bring the likes of Sevilla into discussion for winning Europa then bring the likes of Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest for winning champions league too

The comparison is very simple: ordinary clubs from other leagues win trophies, and English ones don't. But you don't like it, so you start to fantasize.
No one cares that the Premier League clubs are potentially stronger - if there is no result, they are losers. It's cruel, but that's life.

If you want to go back to the days when Nottingham won the Champions League, you'll have to admit that the Premier League is no better than the Dutch or Romanian championships Grin