Quote from: Wind_FURY on April 26, 2025, 06:08:09 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 25, 2025, 04:38:53 PM

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OK, then what was your point again?
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Because this was the post that started your debate, which from your replies/posts, they are sort of pointless,

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Buy the DIP, and HODL

The futures market for the S&P 500 is down by 1.30%, which is a big drawdown for an index, but Bitcoin is currently up by about 2.60%.
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Does that actually mean that the decoupling is happening? That would indeed be the best aftermath of "Trump's Tariffs". That they cause capital flight from equities to hard assets like Gold and Bitcoin. Gold has been looking "parabolic", considering, for its market size.

No need to rehash. I already made my points related to your seemingly want to suggest that there might be some value in holding gold.. or whatever else gold pumping that you were initially suggesting and seeming to back a bit away from that.

Quote from: Wind_FURY on April 26, 2025, 06:08:09 AM

But that's OK, merely looking at the Gold, Tech Stocks and Bitcoin markets as a pleb, Bitcoin looks as if its correlation towards Gold is closer than that against Tech Stocks, which Tech Stocks, Bitcoin was closer with before "Trump's Tariffs".

We're probably seeing more and more asset managers from legacy finance changing their opinions about Bitcoin from "rat poison squared" to an actual safe haven, no?

Of course, more and more BIGGER players are coming around to bitcoin, and retail continues to be lost in its failure/refusal to buy, even tough surely some folks are buying so that they are going to try to get some bitcoin stake rather than staying as no coiners and/or low coiners while some of the BIGGER players (rich people, institutions and/or governments) stack bitcoin and engage in other bitcoin hoarding behaviors.

Quote from: Tamaperdana on April 26, 2025, 12:41:10 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 25, 2025, 05:58:23 PM

We cannot really know the exact adoption numbers, yet many individuals are going to end up getting fucked because they are too slow to get themselves into bitcoin.

Right now we have some of the governments, institutions and rich individuals buying bitcoin and perhaps causing some folks to conclude that bitcoin adoption is higher than what it really is.

A lot of normies are going to be left at a disadvantage, and they will end up having to buy bitcoin at much higher prices, and even $250k is likely going to be a cheap BTC price in future years. Guys who are starting to invest now, and perhaps even needing to take 1-2 cycles or more to build up their bitcoin stash may well be able to get their bitcoin with an average cost that is less than $250k, since it can take a long time to build up a bitcoin stash, and each person has to figure out how much bitcoin that he needs, which is also a moving target.... and I personally, consider that figuring out your standard of living and then building up your bitcoin so that the 200-WMA value is 10x your yearly targeted income rate, then you will likely be able to live off of your bitcoin at that rate in perpetuity.

Yes, people who have not bought bitcoins today, if we look a decade ahead, I also agree that those people will regret it. Because now is the most ideal phase to start accumulating bitcoins, because currently the price of bitcoins can be categorized as still very cheap. So if you start buying bitcoins now, it is much better than buying bitcoins in the next decade. This does not mean that buying bitcoins in the next 10 years is a bad thing. But of course it will be a little difficult to collect bitcoins so that they can increase, because the price is certainly more expensive than now. So the point is buying bitcoins now is something that must be done, if we want to have a lot of bitcoin savings in the future. And DCA is the right purchasing method that can be done.

Most people, even if they start now, will likely take many years, perhaps a cycle or two to establish their bitcoin position. There are not a lot of people who can just buy with a lump sum and then just sit on their investment for 10 years or more... so it seems mostly investors would be actively buying for at least the first half of an investment timeline that might be 10 years or more.